Thursday, April 15, 2010


Sorry folks. It's Hezbollah, not Hamas. I don't have Alzheimer's. It's sometimers. -- MCR

April 15, 2010 -- OK, this explains why Ahmadinejad wanted to pull 5 million out of Teheran this week and Israel just told all it's citizens to evacuate the Sinai. Of all possible explanations, this is the worst. Remember that potassium iodide I suggested a few months ago?.. I'm not kidding. Every other fianancial and energy indicator is flashing red right now. Peak Oil's gone mainstream. And the volume of forward-hedged buys passing June 2008 by miles yesterday says that players are expecting one of two things; either an imminent Israeli attack on Iran, (which a Hamas conflict could/would provoke); or a severe shortage of oil in the face of summer demand... or both. Japan is about to implode and all of the economic ugly chickens all over the world are flying home on afterburner.

If this war breaks out between Israel and Hamas in Jordan (and the Sinai), oil will almost immediately hit $95 to $100. If there is an attack on Iran, it will go to $200 as Iran moves to shut Hormuz. China will immediately launch an all-out cyber attack on the U.S. affecting internet and cell phone communications. China will also probably start dumping T-bills while simultaneously revaluing the Yuan. Hugo Chavez will next impose an oil embargo on the U.S. Oil prices might become so high as to be meaningless within weeks and immediately expose every stinking lie in congress and every stupid banking institution and central bank out there.

It may not be able to do much, but I pray that we get CollapseNet launched in time to do some good.

I haven't felt way this since 1962 and the Cuban Missile Crisis. -- Tomorrow I'm coincidentally going to hang out in northern California with some great fans and musician friends for the weekend. Hope we're all here when I get back!

From Jenna Orkin

George Soros Warns of Biggest Crash to Come
Markets Could Be Derailed Again, Warns Soros
Heavy Insider Stock Selling
IMF Chief: Banks Haven't Learned
Folks Are Freaking Out About Greece Again, And The Euro Is Puking
Deja Vu: Goldman Says Oil Is Going To $99
Some Predict $4 a Gallon
Saudi Oil Use to Grow Steeply
Syria says Israel may strike after Scud accusation
Israeli police hold largest terror drill ever - from Rice Farmer
20 dead in Myanmar terror attack
China's Control of Metals for U.S. Smart Bombs Prompts Calls for Hearings
Hey, how about we refuse to sell China our treasuries?
Russia suspends U.S. adoptions
The Truth Behind the Recent Unrest in Kyrgystan - from Vantage Point
40 Million on Food Stamps
Millions of Unemployed May Never Recover
Jobless claims jump in post-Easter volatility
Volcano Eruption Melts Glacier

SEC watchdog to fault Stanford probe: sources
Goldman Sachs drawn into insider-trading case
Chinese Economy Grows 11.9%, Highlighting Threat of Overheating
Fed Shouldn’t Reveal Crisis Loans, Banks Vow to Tell High Court
Ron Paul: "We Can Do Better With Peace Than With War"
Carlyle, CVC, Unison among Q'sai bidders: sources
U.K. Shuts Airports as Iceland Eruption Chokes Skies

Pakistan failed to protect Bhutto, probe death: U.N.
We should show them how it's done, what with our success with the Kennedy assassination and the Reagan attempt.
Military asserts right to return cyber attacks - from Rice Farmer
How far is too far in the sovereignty movements?
"But there is a different sort of terrorist the FBI says involves Americans attacking each other."
Hi Big Brother.
Lawmakers Are Working On Anti-Brain-Chip Bill - from Rice Farmer
Cops: Third-grader handed out heroin
How long before some terrorist is found to have inserted an explosive device in a baby's diaper (while it's on the baby?)
Mexico: Cartel wars kill 22,000
Mexican Government Targets Oklahoma
Kyrgyzstan Awaits `Serious' U.S. Economic Aid After Russia's $50 Million
Prospective U.S. Cyber Commander Talks Terms of Digital Warfare
Pentagon's Flying Car Program Takes Off
Library of Congress Archives Tweets, Google Searches Them
VISIONS OF THE FUTURE: 10% Of Kansas City Offices Are Located In Underground Bunkers
"Economic Impacts of Prison Growth" (pdf), April 13, 2010.
"About 770,000 people worked in the corrections sector in 2008 [and this number is expected to grow].... By comparison, in 2008 there were 880,000 workers in the entire U.S. auto manufacturing sector."

Freaky Physics Proves Parallel Universes Exist - Fox
India has more mobile phones than toilets: UN report
Coldest weather in 30 years marks the start of a series of extreme winters
The environmental problems still afflicting North America

Putin to be honoured for hip hop


Guy Fawkes said...

Hamas or Hezbollah?

Guy Fawkes said...

Hamas or Hezbollah?

Jenna Orkin said...


you're right that the original article says hezbollah...

Lephrenic said...

I wouldn't rate Fox's physics any more than I rate their journalism.

Has anyone here looked into the Wave Structure of Matter theories? Certainly a very different way of looking at it, going against much of recent quantum physics thinking. Basically, WSM proposes that particles themselves are in fact standing waves vibrating in an aether. Just electrons. No orbitals. No parallel dimensions.

WSM is all rather mundane and mathematical. Certainly not much of a basis for a new age cult. But something tells me the truth, when we discover it, will turn out to be quite simple... and boring. Amen.

RanD said...

From our perspective, the following correlates with what FTW is ultimately all about as well:

Astronomer & physicist Stephan Martin, MS, researches the mysteries of the universe, how and why it was created, the possibility of multiverses, life after death, ETs. From his perspective "[t]he universe is so complex, so profound, so mysterious, that we need lots of different perspectives just to get a handle on it,". With that in mind, Martin consorts with an array of thinkers, cutting edge scientists, religious leaders, indigenous elders, to get their take on the nature of the universe.

One theme which Martin observes emerging from his conversations with these people is that "we don't necessarily live IN the universe because we actually ARE the universe, in human form"; i.e., "[WE] are the universe, occurring in every moment." Martin laments that modern culture has distanced itself from this concept, as can be seen in the disconnect between man and nature.

He says he was most surprised by his interviews with indigenous elders, who convey a strong belief in reciprocity; in their view, "it's an interrelated universe where there are repercussions for our actions."
2010/04/14 (subscription required)

F.Kamilov said...

Benazir Bhutto was done in by her country's establishment, as you also have hinted. In fact it is common knowledge here that her husband ordered it, who is now the current president. Perhaps the reason was gangster rivalry between the two. Both were/are consummate thieves, "kleptocrats" as I call them, and one is glad to see the back of that woman. She outdid Imelda Marcos exponentially. Imelda was notorious only for her shoes, the wife of an unpopular dictator who held onto power by force. This other woman was a shameless actress, who had the pied-piper mystique of befuddling her country's dirty, illiterate and slavish masses while she drank their blood. I only wish she had been tried by a proper court, and then stood to the wall facing a proper firing squad. At least that would have partially met the need for justice regarding what she did.

Zhyppers said...

@ Freaky Physics proves Parallel universe Exists.

Heisenberg uncertainty principle makes me question this. It says the more you know about the energy of a particle, the less you know about time. Likewise, the more you know about momentum, the less you do about position. It never said the particle can be in two places at once, just that everything is measured with probability. (This is where I believe the model for quantum mechanics breaks down.) Also, Einstein with his theory of relativity founded the model of space-time and showed that you can only slow time down in your perspective, and never stop it or go backwards. I guess these guys do have the degrees behind their names though, so I can't question it too much.

I hope Oil doesn't go over $140 per Barrel again! I have to get to my minimum wage summer job! I suppose that if China does start dumping T-bills, I probably won't have a job or any wealth to my name left.

F.Kamilov said...

Sorry, here's the link for the HAARP article:

eyeballs said...

Jenna’s link on prison growth
notes (in addition to the fact that the number of prison workers nearly equals that of auto workers in America today):

“Nearly all U.S. prisons opened from 200-2005 were private. Private prisons housed 8% of U.S. inmates in 2008, including more than 16% of federal prisoners.”

The summary also gives several pieces of pending legislation, by number. I searched them out and found fairly good news. The emphasis of one pair (S. 2772 / HR 4080) is on really seeking out the causes of our growing prison population, and actually reduce the number of prisoners. Private prisons are not mentioned, or even alluded to. The Senate bill is sponsored by Sen. Leahy (D-VT), arguably the least totalitarian-minded senator in the building, who’s also sponsoring S. 714, the National Criminal Justice Commission Act of 2009. This latter would set up a bi-partisan commission to study the problem of prison expense and also the root causes, such as gang warfare and recidivism, and make a public report to congress. Again, no mention of private prisons.

Another pair of propositions (S. 1611 / H.R. 413) is known in both houses as the Public Employee-Employer Cooperation Act, and seeks to allow public employees, such as policemen and firefighters, to engage in collective bargaining. I’m not sure why the Congressional Research study that Jenna linked us to included these in legislation related to prisons.

The last one, though, is called the Private Prison Information Act of 2009 (H.R. 2450). Its intent is to

“require non-Federal prisons and correctional facilities holding Federal prisoners under a contract with the Federal Government to make the same information available to the public that Federal prisons and correctional facilities are required to make available.”

Not so bad, I think.

Still, though we are not in the days of Bush/Ashcroft, private prisons still loom as a cost-cutting measure, while states and the federal government try to balance their shattered budgets.

Privatized prisons amount to slave labor. Prisoners can be forced, or nearly so, to make blue jeans (Oregon), wrap holiday packs of Starbucks Coffee (Washington), build a WalMart store (Wisconsin) and do many other tasks, for pennies an hour.

In addition, because privatized prisons are a for-profit, corporate enterprise, their boards of directors are mandated to cut costs to increase profits. Personal development programs, such as art or writing courses (Derrick Jensen teaches one at Pelican Bay State Prison in California), medical care and even food are subject to cost cutting, when every penny saved is (for investors) a penny earned. Some prisoners have been "exported" from states with overcrowded prisons, to newly-built private facilities in other states. For the same reason you would not want Frito-Lay managing a school lunch program, you would not want Correction Corporation of America running a jail.

George Monbiot wrote a great article about private prisons about a year ago, in the Guardian.

It’s clear that the high costs of maintaining a growing prison population cannot be borne by the states or the federal government. Costs will be cut. The question is, whether this will be accomplished by decriminalizing victimless personal behavior and releasing many non-violent criminals for time served, OR by incarcerating ever more victims into for-profit slave camps.

Aggressive business interests want the latter outcome. If they are the only ones with their eye on the ball, there is still a chance that the funding crisis will be solved in this way.

It behooves us to look carefully at the progress of prison reform, and squak at the right time if things start going in the wrong direction.

hawlkeye said...

If Peak Oil has really gone mainstream, can other revelations like chemtrails be very far behind?

Our local weatherman didn't say THAT "ch" word on the air, but he did call it "metallicized chaff" when pointing out that green bands on the radar were not moisture, but the results of "military exercizes" which he confidently recognized from his "many years in the Marine Corps".

Loud and clear.

Semper Fry

OrwellianUK said...

A slip of the fingers I think. Mike has noted the mistake on the Collapse Facebook page.

What time scales are we talking here? Weeks? Months?

Weaseldog said...

Yeah, the moving people, in case of earthquake, story seemed a bit odd.

"Gas Prices Are Up, But Is That A Good Thing?"

Peak Oil Concepts are still hitting the mainstream I see.

Still, I see no factual discussions on why prices go up, in the MSM. When that is mentioned, the ever reliable 'speculators' are the scapegoats.

It's never insufficient supply to meet demand. After all in economics speak, demand is what people buy, not what they want to buy. This view of how the world works (economically speaking), is crippling to critical thought.

Weaseldog said...

That's a good propaganda piece from the IMF. It makes them appear to care.

Weaseldog said...

But as CBS 2's Derrick Blakley reports, the higher prices might actually be a good thing.

I read the article several times and couldn't find a followup argument to support this statement.

Weaseldog said...

To be fair, the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle describes the limits of our perception. It doesn't explain why our perception works this way.

I agree with many of your other statements. I thought it hokey that the 'scientist' was stating that the astronaut in question went forwards and backwards in time.

In my completely unprofessional view, if there is more than one universe, then the others a directly connected by mechanisms we don't fully comprehend.

And what we observe is our four dimensional slice. What occurs in the other dimensions, interacts with those we see, but we cannot perceive that is going in them.

As thought experiment. Draw three points on a page. Now connect them with lines.

What figure have you drawn?

You might be tempted to say it's a triangle. But actually I've asked you to draw a slice of a cube. you just can't perceive the rest of the cube thorough two dimensions.

F.Kamilov said...

Here are links to one article and one editorial, about the impending revolution in Pakistan - both from today's edition of this country's foremost English newspaper "The News", which is also unabashedly pro-elite and pro-US too:

Parallel Worlds Begin To Collide


And this revolution won't be of the so-called soft "velvet", "orange" or "violet" variety that Uncle Sam has engendered in the FSU; nor will it be of the historical textbook variety like the American, French, Russian and Chinese revolutions known to the student and scholar; it will more likely be a "gutter" revolution, an anarchic mishmash of random murder and thuggery, with disorganised impoverished tribesmen and peasants looting the rich towns and suburbs, and forming bands that rob each other. For that is the sad "genius" of the "hoi polloi" here. Then someone will "call upon"the Taliban to step in and restore order...

Ludolphus said...


Washington, D.C., April 16, 2010 — The Securities and Exchange Commission today charged Goldman, Sachs & Co. and one of its vice presidents for defrauding investors by misstating and omitting key facts about a financial product tied to subprime mortgages as the U.S. housing market was beginning to falter. --

businessman said...

From the Los Angeles Times:

"The government is accusing Wall Street powerhouse Goldman Sachs & Co. of defrauding investors in its disclosures about securities it sold tied to subprime mortgage securities as the housing market was faltering.

The Securities and Exchange Commission announced Friday civil fraud charges against Goldman Sachs and one of its vice presidents."

It looks like, as one would expect, that one person will be used as the "fall guy" while everyone else involved goes free.

Anonymous said...

I did not understand MCR's "potassium iodide" comment. Can someone explain it?

MathFacts said...

Curious about Mr. Ruppert's response to Alex Jones saying peak oil is a myth created to drive oil prices higher.
I think Alex Jones is an insider or at the very least a bone head but here is a video recently taken of him on Russian TV
talking about peak oil and saying it is made up.

MathFacts said...

Alex Jones Vs. Peak Oil

Curious about Mr. Ruppert's response to Alex Jones saying peak oil is a myth created to drive oil prices higher.
I think Alex Jones is an insider or at the very least a bone head but here is a video recently taken of him on Russian TV
talking about peak oil and saying it is made up.

Weaseldog said...

"potassium iodide" is taken as remedy for radiation sickness.

Radioactive salts tend to accumulate in the thyroid. Potassium iodide replaces them, so that the body can process them and flush them out.

The Watcher said...

Come on, Mike. Potassium Iodide?! Really?! First of all, Israel won't be attacking Jordan or Egypt. It's Lebanon that's in focus here. That's where Hezbollah is. And there already was an Israeli/Lebanon war in '06 and that didn't escalate into total war. So why would you think so now?

Also, I really don't think Iran will being shutting down the Straight unless under direct attack as it relies on imported gas as much as it does on the revenues of its exports. Hormuz is as vital to the Ahmadinejad government as it is for the rest of the world, so shutting it down is their hell Mary play, not their first option. Their economy is weak and they're struggling with a restless younger population. They need the revenue to stay in power. Iran has no desire to get into a ground war with anyone, either, so we can rule that out. They use proxies, like Hezbollah. But that doesn't mean Israel will take the war directly to Iran, especially if the US isn't on board. There's a lot of chest thumping right now but everyone knows this isn't going to happen without the US being directly involved. Look how big Iran is compared to Israel. They can't handle everyone all at once, Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria, Iran, etc... Hezbollah may be the first domino, but it won't unfold all at once. This will take years. Not the end game situation you seem to suggest.

And yes, oil futures went up, but they always do this time of year. It's Spring and oil prices rise in the the warmer months. I'm not sure if that alone can be considered a red light. Unless you know more, in which case, please share.

As for China dumping Treasuries... That doesn't makes sense to me, either. They need our economy to stay strong (for now). Much of their reserves are in dollars. It would hurt them just as much as it would hurt us since a strong dollar allows them to win the trade war. Especially since we're the ones buying all their products. Heck, even our American flags are now made in China. Its bad business to kill the customer.

So, Mike, could you please explain what you mean when you say, "Every other financial and energy indicator is flashing red right now."

Doxrides said...

I have been following the diatribes of both MCR and Alex Jones for the better part of a decade. I find them both very entertaining, the best doomer porn out there. Peak oil is a point of divide between the two, and I don't really know who is correct, maybe both. I remember MCR saying few years ago that it didn't matter if geological peak oil is real, the world is acting as if it IS real, and that's what matters anyway. AJ on the other hand says a lot of things for the shock/entertainment value. I don't listen to him for facts and an education, but I do respect what he does because he exposes a lot of the dark dealings of the elite, but that will only get you so far.

Sebastian Ernst Ronin said...

Kamilov, re " will more likely be a 'gutter' revolution, an anarchic mishmash of random murder and thuggery, with disorganised impoverished tribesmen and peasants looting the rich towns and suburbs, and forming bands that rob each other."

Sounds about right. Arts and writing courses for inmates will unfortunately have to be put on hold.

A peon said...

New Zealand: Scientists Given Permission to Put Human Genes Into Goats, Sheep and Cows

businessman said...

I don't think there's any reason for the government to admit to chemtrails. Peak Oil going mainstream is most likely being used as a way to lay the foundation for explaining the some time in the future...when people are screaming for answers. But I don't see any advantage to the government if they were to begin admitting to chemtrails.

Weaseldog said...

"Every other financial and energy indicator is flashing red right now."

Economic crisis always follow dramatic upswings in energy prices.

But that's not the whole story. It's the fundamentals behind the energy price increases that cause the problem.

World oil production is currently in decline.

As oil declines, industry must slow.

This is because the quantity of oil available represents the limit to the quantity of work that can be done. Energy drives industry and defines it's upper limits.

Even as our population grows, the number of jobs must diminish.

The rising price of oil represents the various players bidding to keep their supply of oil constant or rising. It's impossible for them all, to get what they need to stay in business. And high prices weaken every player.

So prices will keep rising until we get a dislocation. Another economic correction.

A few months ago, I though that indicators placed the economic crisis in May. I'm still thinking that's when we'll see it begin.

A lot of folks like to talk about oil and pricing, and make arguments about how pricing isn't that important. What they miss in that kind of analysis is that it's declining supply, not increasing demand that is driving the price upwards. For a hundred years it was the other way around. Folks haven't learned how to account for the curves going the other way.

agape wins said...


Glad to see your post, your contact on your blog (Both are swell), does not work.

When I was young, 1948 to 1958, I
rode a fat tire, and then wore out
3 of the first 3 speeds. I was one of the first "Nuts" in Michigan to brave the Lake Michigan winter winds.
I made "Tire Chains" out of "Binder Twine", Bikes today are
a whole different breed!

The Watcher,

MCR's slant is in response to King Abdullah's remark and the requested "Evacuation" of millions,
or do you think the two have no connection, as everything else has been random since the first Golf War? I HOPE YOU ARE CORRECT.

"e Brutto" said...

The Guardian story of 11 Apr goes viral?
In Google News UK, top stories list @23:32 UK time Fri

US military warns oil output may dip causing massive shortages by 2015

Erupting volcano could be a black swan if it goes on for months.

'Airlines to lose $200 million a day'

[Identifying a Black Swan Event

Based on the author's criteria:
1. The event is a surprise (to the observer).
2. The event has a major impact.
3. After the fact, the event is rationalized by hindsight, as if it had been expected.]
i.e. ~"well yes didn't French agricultural production get shut down causing starvation a few hundred years ago by an Icelandic volcano."

Watch the planes not flying ;¬)

Isaac L said...

Anyone who puts any confidence in the Enterprise Mission or Richard Hoagland needs to get their head examined.

"e Brutto" said...

More black swan like behaviour.

2 out of 3 is bad ;¬)

Written 21/03/10 - before the eruption increased in size...

"Eyjafjallajokull has blown three times in the past thousand years," Dr McGarvie told The Times, "in 920AD, in 1612 and between 1821 and 1823. Each time it set off Katla." The likelihood of Katla blowing could become clear "in a few weeks or a few months", he said.

Paul Mineau said...

I thought this essay summed up the collapse of industrial civilization pretty well. by
Guy R. McPherson

Elmo said...

Alex Jones is a career fearmonger, nothing more. A very effective one, I'll give him that. America probably wouldn't have half the riot gear it does now, if not for him.

im3w1l said...

Regarding the physics article, that was a total piece of crap...
Nature provides a more reasonable interpretation:
This article is actually written for a popular audience and makes a whole lot more sense than foxnews.
Zhyppers: You're right that it doesn't. The standard interpretation of quantom mechanics is known as the copenhagen interpretation. Parallell worlds is another one.

But, actually a particle can be in many states at once (in a sense). This is proved by these states interacting with each other (!). Think of a ball being in two places bouncing on itself.
For more on this, see the double-slit experiment.

bostx said...

If, if, if, if...the sky is falling again...break out the potassium

Elmo said...

"actually a particle can be in many states at once (in a sense). This is proved by these states interacting with each other (!). Think of a ball being in two places bouncing on itself."

The problem most people (including many physicists, it would seem) have in understanding the nature of sub-atomic particles is that they insist on defining a particle as something solid. But matter at it's foundations is nothing more than energy confined to a given space. Demonstrating this phenomenon was Einstein's life work. E=MC² states that the mass of a body is a direct measure of its energy content.

"Manifestation" is probably a more accurate term than "particle". There, that ought to give the religious kids something to play with! :-p

OregonSurvivor said...

The thundering silence that followed my post about CA chemtrails had me concerned that everyone was blind to them. It is reassuring to see some mention here.

eyeballs said...


With respect...

"the quantity of oil available represents the limit to the quantity of work that can be done. Energy drives industry and defines it's upper limits.

"Even as our population grows, the number of jobs must diminish."

If by "work" you mean the total output of industrial wealth possible, then of course, fuel input has a direct correlation to the amount of work done.

If by "work" you mean jobs, au contraire, we can all work just as hard, and in meaningful ways, even. Just, by hand-working a forest garden and a swath of grain, you will produce much less tonage per person than guys sitting in air-conditioned cabs of agribusiness machines, reaping in cash crops. What that means is, that many more of us must lend our hands to the basics, and what will tank is the jobs as insurance adjustors, advertising executives, auto detailers, WalMart flunkies, burger flippers, and unfortunately dental assistants, psychology professors and professional pundits.

Don't worry about having a job, man, the world will be glad to put you to work. We'll need a lot of nuclear sites cleaned up (once we figure out where to empty the dustbins) and soil remediated, much shit shoveled and many carts pushed. There will be room at the bottom for hard workers, but also room at the table, which will probably keep most people making the reasonable choice.

What we're faced with is not a lack of meaningful work, but an understandable connection with the work that needs to be done, and a good expectation of feeding ourselves and our loved ones. This is culture change. The very best work we can do just now (IMHO) is to begin creating the scenarios in which human dignity is not lost along with industrial society. In a best case scenario, we recover much dignity lost over the industrial revolution and emerge as a healthier species. Massive hurdles though. Shoulders to the wheel, mateys, we all gotta pull together.

pagun said...

speaking of american environmental problems. did you know that before 1850 the 'great plains' was written the 'great american desert' on every map. The west coast rainforests have been hit so hard by industrialized logging that the biomass deficit is going to cause the interior of N Am to FRY. I really think global frying would be more appropriate than warming because its going to be really hot, and only the rocks(and sand) will remain. THE EXACT SAME THING HAPPENNED IN N AFRICA- the first couple mtn. ranges still have a rainforest, but after the ocean influence fades its over.

RanD said...


Re your comment(s) in response to the idea/allegation that "...a particle can be in many states at once (in a sense)...[etc]." Excellent! Except for the idea/allegation that "Manifestation" rather than "Spirit" is probably ("probably"?! Goodness, don't you KNOW?!) a more accurate term than "particle".

(Also, btw, the word "it's" is a contraction of "it is". If it's the possessive of "it" that you want then you need to spell it "its"; i.e., no apostrophe. Geniuses that don't know how to spell are... well... "careless" is probably a more accurate term than "stupid"; wouldn't you say? :-))

No offense whatsoever intended. Some religious kids just can't pass up on having fun when the opportunity is offerred.

That's all.

Elmo said...


Better than stupid... Right!