Friday, May 21, 2010

Clinton Says N. Korea's Bombing of Ship "Cannot Go Unanswered;" Perfect Storm; Plan to Evacuate Tampa

From Jenna Orkin

Korea
Will there be war in Korea?
S. Korea vows caution, North sees war
Clinton warns North Korea
Clinton Says North Korean Sinking of Southern Ship `Cannot Go Unanswered'
North gets blame, China gets mess
Key political risks to watch
China must not be allowed to defend N Korea
Meet The New Truthers Who Think Western Powers Faked The Cheonan Shipwreck To Start WW3
Needless to say, the evidence used to ridicule 9/11 researchers is the hole-in-the-Pentagon distraction.

Perfect Storm/Economy
'Perfect storm' as market tremors hit China, EU, US

The Perfect Storm: Six Trends Converging on Collapse
We Have Crossed the Rubicon
How the euro might collapse
Economic storm pounds Europe

Social Unrest Spreads to Slovenia and Spain; Images Around the Globe; US Not Immune to Protests
Roubini: A 20% market decline is on the way
Global Stocks Ablaze, Dow Tumbles: EU Officials Fiddle as Euro Burns - from Rice Farmer
Meet The Latest Member Of The Plunge Protection Team: The European Central Bank - from Rice Farmer
Peak oil production coming much sooner than expected
- from Rice Farmer
Whatever Germany does, the euro as we know it is dead
Pentagon Plan to Upgrade Afghan Airbase Near Iran May Rile Islamic Regime
Central Falls Rhode Island - Bankrupt - Goes Into Receivership
Weekly Unemployment Claims Rise by 25,000 to 471,000, 4-Week Moving Average at 453,500
China now top U.S. ag export market
U.S. unlikely to push China on currency
Gold to hit $3,000/oz

Terror/Intelligence
Artificial life created in a lab for the first time
Darpa's Self-Learning Software Knows Who You Are
Turkey Bombs Kurdish Rebels in Northern Iraq
Obama's top intelligence official to resign
How Tweet It Is!: Library Acquires Entire Twitter Archive
Russia: Invisible Helicopters
Authorities Say Passenger Voices Were Recorded in Cockpit of Doomed Polish Plane
Homeland Security wants to turn your cell phone into a smell phone - from Rice Farmer

Oil Disaster
Oil leak greater than first estimates, BP admits
Is Deepwater Horizon leaking 95,000 barrels per day?
Plans to Evacuate Tampa
Did Deepwater methane hydrates cause the BP Gulf explosion
"A sudden large scale release of methane hydrates is believed to have caused a mass extinction 55 million years ago. Among planners concerned with mega-disasters, their sudden escape is considered to be a threat comparable to an asteroid strike or nuclear war."
Obama must get control of rogue oil regulators - The Boston Globe
And once he does that we can go back to business as usual.
EPA Orders BP to Use Less-Toxic Oil Dispersant
NASA releases new images of Gulf oil spill moving to Loop Current
Interior Department sued over BP oil spill
Interior Unveils Plan to Split MMS Into 3 Agencies
Shuffling the bureaucracy.
Salazar Urged To Shut Down Second BP Oil Rig
U.S. and Cuba hold talks on Gulf oil spill
BP accused of cover-up
Scientists Fault Lack of Studies Over Gulf Oil Spill

Science/Environment
Experts: More TB now than ever and U.N. efforts failing - from Rice Farmer
Dengue Fever In Florida Portends A Growing Problem - from Rice Farmer
Garden birds found to shun organic

34 comments:

"e Brutto" said...

TB is not a new problem in the modern world.
As an undergraduate 20+ years ago I wrote an impassioned essay (well I was young) to plan for a return of large scale TB to the West due to:
The then already established resistance to drug therapies;
Importation of resistant TB from African immigrants forming a pool of infection;
(HIV infection precludes vaccination and increases the risk of TB infection.);
Any return to poor living conditions providing ideal propagation of TB i.e. crowded together to keep warm / save money and inadequate diet.
All the above was mainstream in the scientific literature even then, just buried and of no interest to the media.

From the linked article,
'"The main priority for TB control is improved living conditions and economic growth, which is outside the control of the U.N.," said Philip Stevens, a health policy expert at International Policy Network, a London-based think tank. "TB cannot be tackled in isolation."'

Over population as ever is the problem:
Small well fed prosperous populations have low levels of TB infection.

Brandon_Adams said...

Michael, I'd like to chat with you via Skype. I'll pay $150/hr sent beforehand via paypal (1.5 hour first meeting). Please email me at brandonadamsweb@gmail.com if interested. Brandon Adams

businessman said...

I would imagine, unfortunately, that the aftermath of the BP oil spill will follow similarly to what happened with the Exxon Valzez spill. The company will publicly profess its intent to cleanup the spill and reimburse everyone for their damages, while in reality they'll be fighting hard to do the exact opposite whenever they're in court. And the judicial system will cooperate with the company's best interests, too.

You can see from the following information that in 2008 the U.S. Supreme Court wiped out all of Exxon's punitive damages from the Valdez spill. The punitive damages were originally set at $5 Billion, and they were gradually reduced on appeal until the U.S. Supreme Court totally eliminated them in 2008.

Click Here for the Information

robmac58 said...

Mish Mash
1, Regarding artificial life created in the lab.
In my opinion, all GM organisms qualify as artificial life. They are loose everywhere now.
Tick, tick, tick.
2,For what it's worth, everything from the Business insider, I pass over without reading.
3, To RanD,
You hit it right on. We all own this thing.
4, Finally and most importantly, to anyone who has not taken the time to listen to MCR's presentation in Burlington VT.
Do so today!!
No punches were pulled. Thanks Mike particularly,for daring to go way beyond the PC boundries in addressing the issues of polarization around race and class as things unwind and the fact that "innocent" human beings are going to suffer and die and we may in fact elect not to help them.
This kind of talk will normally get you branded as a bigot or a monster, but these are conversations that we collectively are badly needing to have.
I tip my hat to Michael Ruppert for his courage!

Margaret said...

Question about logistics of owning physical gold (coins):

Ok, where I live there's only 1 real place in the city to buy gold coins and perhaps bullion. I purchased some 1 oz eagles there already. It's kind of risky because a person can get mugged on the way in/out of the store.

I can buy gold online through an outfit like Kitco.com, but then you risk the thing getting stolen at the post office, or by the mail carrier or who knows. Then there's the price of shipping and insurance on top of the spot...

What happens when financial system unravels or when inflation hits? Who will buy my gold? The store downtown? How will I ship my gold back to Kitco for cash when there's no guarantee of safe shipments? Will merchants start taking gold as legal tender? And what...give me dollars in change?

Need help understanding this. I can't figure it out!!

Mitchell said...

"Garden birds found to shun organic" is worth a chuckle. I wonder who sponsored that bit of propaganda?

Those poor garden birds must be worried about Peak Oil's effect on the availability of non-organic bird seeds.

Paul said...

Jenna,

I've been involved with the beta testing of collapse.net from early on, and I’ve contributed what I think are some useful suggestions on the feedback forum (based on the voting by other testers).

Initially there seemed to be a lot of activity on the feedback forum. However, the forum has disappeared as an option from within collapse.net and I can no longer access it. I assume this is true for all beta-testers.

I am concerned that we don’t lose momentum on this - I am sure there is plenty going on in the background - but if most beta testers are like me, they are probably wondering how they can best contribute. There is obviously a lot of good will out there and it is critical that we capitalise on that at this time.

Is there an email address I can write to to get some answers?

best regards,

Paul

A peon said...

The garden birds shunning organic food leads me to believe,like other conventionally processed foods,the non-organic seeds may contain in them a chemical that is physically addictive.

And...

Sounds like Beck may have read Crossing the Rubicon: Beck - Orphans from his most recent album,Modern Guilt

The relevant portion of the lyrics: "Think I'm stranded but I don't know where
I got this diamond that don't know how to shine
In the sun where these dark winds wail
And the children leave their rulers behind
As you cross ten leagues from a rubicon
With matchsticks for my bones
If we can learn how to freeze ourselves alive
We could learn to leave these burdens to burn"

Mr. Kowalski said...

How long can central banks keep intervening in currency, bond and equity markets ?? For awhile I actually think.. but when it does come crashing down, it will be unholy fast and the vast majority will never see it coming.

http://themeanoldinvestor.blogspot.com/2009/11/sum-of-all-fears.html

sunrnr said...

Paul,

I somehow locked myself out of beta testing CollapseNet and cannot find anyone to let me back in.

Gave up I did. Shame that!

namaste

Elmo said...

@ everyone, but especially Mike, Jenna & Company...

I was going to write this to Jenna, in hopes that she would forward it to Mike; but I feel that I owe an apology to everyone involved in Collapsenet, not just Mike and Jenna.

I came to this blog with a pronounced suspicion of Mike and his motives. Since 9/11, I have been scouring the web and other resources, looking for the truth about the world situation, and finding many people with their own agendas and versions of supposed 'truth'. I initially saw Michael C. Ruppert among those I believed as having a self-serving agenda. I realize now that I was mistaken in that assumption.

I also realize that I have stirred up a lot of unnecessary shit in the quest to have a final answer on that issue, and it is for this reason that I feel I should make a public apology.

So, here you have it... I was WRONG!
(and I didn't even stutter)

Mike, I'm sorry. If your ulcer is anything like mine, I also apologize for any stirrings I might have caused in that department! Please know that you have my highest endorsement (for whatever it's worth).

toner deeski said...

gotta agree with a peon about the bird seeds.

Mitchell said...

Paul,
I too am a beta tester. Yes the feedback button has disappeared for me too. In fact, I suggested they get rid of it (the button and its confusing widgets, not the idea of feedback). But that might not have any bearing on its disappearance.

In any case: I too find that things are "quiet" on CollapseNet/Beta. But I'm not worried. It's a small team doing a big thing, and I'm cutting them plenty of slack. I'm sure they feel at least as much urgency as we do. As I understand it, they're resolving critical security/privacy issues, not trying to make it perfect.

In the meantime, here's my own perspective. CollapseNet will help us connect with our own locals and give us ideas to learn from others. But it can't do the real work of forming the tight local community needed to make a "lifeboat" work. So as I wait, I've begun to think about what a lifeboat actually looks like in my area and how to organize and protect it. Plus, Mike's intro video and comments about Summer 2010 being pivotal have catalyzed me to accelerate preparations dramatically. Watching him talk on video is much richer than just reading his words (which are
already obviously very valuable). Speaking of that, anyone who hasn't watched his Vermont video yet should do so as soon as possible.

Mitchell said...

Elmo, you're a standup guy. I tip my hat to you. For what it's worth I never found your blog posts disruptive.

Rhino said...

"What happens when financial system unravels or when inflation hits? Who will buy my gold? The store downtown?"

If it gets as bad as MCR is predicting people will start requiring gold as payment for goods and services, so you can use it everywhere. Until that time I suspect more and more gold businesses will be established across the country, due to the rising price and interest levels. Humans have been using gold as a currency for thousands of years, we will figure that part out.

CPL said...

If it make you feel any better I downloaded the video because of the unavailability (I live in the sticks) and paid the price of admission. Only once though.

As a senior tech architect I can offer some ideas to harpoon the torrents if you want so people buy your gear.

I'm a techie, a 30 year pirate and most of it has nothing to do with crippling the media itself. The message can be sent gently you need to back your venture without pissing people off.

RobotTrainMaker said...

BETA testers, thanks for hanging in there. email me at RobotTrainMaker at CollapseNet.com if you have any feedback. we are going to put the feedback tab back on, but have to pay some bills.

We are listening, and I believe we fixed most of the issues you guys raised. The feed back is gold. we really appreciate your feedback!

The team I built is solid, we're ready to go, sorry for any silence. We are re-enabling our private messaging system this weekend, so you can use that, and we also promise single sign-in for the feedback.

hang in there, lots going on!
RobotTrainMaker

gamedog said...

Re: Organic Vs conventional - Higher protein etc.

This study concentrates on Grain, which is notoriously difficult to grow under organic conditions because of weeding issues, which compete with the crop for nutrients. This study says it is the application of N fertiliser on con-ventional crops being the reason con-ventional crops put on more weight, completely disregarding the known weed competition issue. I have organic crops of willow where weeds were suppressed with mulch which outperformed non mulched crops by over 600% purely because of weed competition.

“Conventionally-grown crops tend to con­tain sig­nif­i­cantly high­er lev­els of pro­tein than those grown or­gan­ic­ally due to the ap­plica­t­ion of inor­gan­ic ni­tro­gen fer­tilis­ers in con­ven­tion­al farm­ing sys­tems,” Mac­Ken­zie said. “This makes our find­ings po­ten­tially ap­plicable across many food types and sug­gests the is­sues sur­round­ing or­gan­ic food are not as cut and dried as some might think.”

Monsanto et al know this is the only area they can use for propaganda, the same study brought us the "organic not as good for you" type headlines a couple of weeks back. Notice how the conclusions only have the "potential" to "suggest" it applies to other food types - BS. If they thought for one minute they could prove conventional farming produced food that was "better" for us, you can bet your bottom dollar they would publish it. We will never see those results tho eh, yet they expect us to think they never studied other food groups at all ;)

I do wonder why such links full of misinformation make it onto the blog tho.

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Elmo, it's all part of the learning curve ;)

It comes down to a reality check IMO, weather you want real, accurate info, and a solid actionable survival plan with Mike, collapsenet, and the PO/sustainability movement, or something like (insert wannabe messiah/conspiracy cult) where utopian BAUesque fantasies are built on abiotic solar windmills against the laws of thermodynamics in a green valley far far away.
===========================
Beta testers need feedback, and somewhere to give feedback. With over 250 testers and only about 40 dots on the map, seems some might need a little further direction. An update email may be the easiest way to sit-rep and help keep the betas momentum up.

Soggy Bottom said...

Elmo

Who could blame you for being sceptical. In a world where lies and greed abound it would be a foolish person indeed who took anything on face value.In these times we can only discern for ourselves.
Halve it, quarter it and take the rest with a pinch of salt.
Yes there were times when you made me cross (as you well know) but I am so pleased you are with us. Don't stop stirring the pot and goading us to think further. We all need to stretch our minds now into the unseeable future.
As Mike said, no two lifeboats will be the same but we can all learn something from each other.
The best of luck to you and your partner and to everyone else who reads and comments on FTW.

A peon said...

Month after oil spill, why is BP still in charge?

13-year-old becomes youngest to top Mount Everest :"Also Saturday, officials said a Nepalese Sherpa who lives in the Salt Lake City suburb of Draper broke his own world record by climbing Everest for the 20th time.Apa,who goes by one name,went up with fellow climbers on a mission also to collect garbage,a growing environmental problem on the mountain."

JHK is pretty funny:
James H Kunstler dissects suburbia

Ok,this one pisses me off:
Suspected US missile kills 10 in NW Pakistan :"U.S. drones often hit suspected hide-outs of militants in troubled Pakistani tribal region,which Washington considers a center for the remnants of Taliban,al-Qaida and Pakistani insurgents.

*That says suspected,not confirmed.Why?

The intelligence officials said a Filipino suspect was believed to be among the slain men.They said their agents were still trying to get details about the second foreigner killed in the attack.The officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media.

Five women and two children also were wounded in the attack,the officials said."

Sebastian Ernst Ronin said...

Wow, The HUFFington Post crawls onside. Here comes the next generaton of soft wannabe's clinging onto the coat-tails of the pioneers. Such is always the case. The mob will always be the mob. This is why we have this distasteful creature in the world called "politics."

@ Elmo, re "I also realize that I have stirred up a lot of unnecessary shit in the quest to have a final answer on that issue, and it is for this reason that I feel I should make a public apology." You think too much of yourself. No one has lost any sleep. Why lump yourself in with the other religious prima donnas and debutantes? Come on down off the cross so we can beat you with it. =;-{D

RanD said...

"Gold bulls claim price could double to $3,000 in five years."

My how those calves have been growing up over the past few thousand years.

William Nye said...

I had the opportunity to have dinner with Mike while he was in Brattleboro, VT and I can assure you CollapseNet is his number 1 priority. He has a team working 24/7 to get it where it needs to be. Be patient, it's coming.

And Mike, it was a pleasure to spend a few minutes with you in the Jeep. I hope the second half was as good as the first.

F.Kamilov said...

Have you guys not heard the news? The Pakistani government has blocked a series of websites, accusing them of blaspheming Mohammad. No other virulent Islamic government - including the Arab sheikdoms or Iran, has so far done so. The primary target was Facebook, but Wikipedia, Twitter, Google and Blogspot were also blocked. Facebook and Yahoo still remain blocked, for the sixth day. Ostensibly, the reason was because Facebook had hosted a page concerning a competition for caricaturing Mohammad - but the reason appears to me to be something very fishy - the whole country is in a state of utter collapse and disarray due to corruption and its effects, and this seemed to me to be not only a calculated move to distract the attention of Pakistan's flammable and backward peasant population, but also an exercise in shutting down the internet and studying its effects and outcomes - when necessary in such situations.

A second bombshell is about to airburst over the country: in the very far north, near the border with China, a huge natural lake was formed beginning January 4 this year, when seismic activity triggered a landslide, which blocked the path of the mighty River Indus - the third largest river in the world - and has resulted in the formation of a lake 26 miles long and 400 feet deep. The Pakistanis didn't do anything when they could have, and now it is too late...hundreds of villages are already submerged, hundreds of thousands displaced, a 20-mile stretch of Pakistan's strategic highway with China lies under water, Pakistani-Chinese overland trade has dropped to zero, and the Pakistani border trading post of Sust has been evacuated. The lake is about to burst its natural dam, and when that happens, a catastrophe unimaginable in Pakistan's modern history will unfold - in just a few days time: not only will the Gilgit province - where this lake has been formed - get a good washout, but areas hundreds of miles downstream - some of Pakistan's main populational, industrial and agricultural zones, will be affected by 8 to 15 meter flooding levels...echoes of the Iceland volcano, folks - another "first-time-in-modern-history" natural disruption? It seems God is really angry with presumptuous postmodern man. I'm not kidding. To cap it all, Pakistan's Prime Minister Gillani visited the "lakesite" yesterday, and inaugurated a displaced peoples' camp by cutting a ribbon...that indiscretion, plus the fact that his government has done pretty little in practical disaster alleviating terms - inflamed the people who heckled him, and he had to leave his speech and run away in his helicopter. Sounds really idiotic, but when faced with disaster, all the elites can do is cut fancy ribbons - as if inaugurating a patisserie - or say "Why don't they eat cake if there is no bread?"

Below is a link to the latest on Lake Comeuppance, in Northern Pakistan:

Experts warn of high tidal wave in Hunza

http://www.thenews.com.pk/print1.asp?id=240647

Sebastian Ernst Ronin said...

@ gamedog, re "...where utopian BAUesque fantasies are built on abiotic solar windmills against the laws of thermodynamics in a green valley far far away."

Nice shot! As "the condition" morphs towards realer and realer, the urban, moaning greenies will collapse (where have we heard that expression before?) as a political factor. They beg to be replaced with something state-of-the-art. Adapt or perish, yes?

cj said...

Margaret,

I've purchased from independent sellers as well as Ebay with good results. I got a post office box in a neighboring town and ask that coins be sent with signature confirmation. So far so good. Those little gold sellers in your neighborhood will give you rock bottom prices for your metals while giving themselves a dandy commission when they sell to you. With Ebay, you can wait until something you want comes along, and if the price gets too high, just wait for another auction to come along. If you're lucky, you can get coins below spot prices. Beware of replica, proof, miniature, copy, reproduction, etc. coins and be sure you are getting coins that are gold or 90% silver (1964 or earlier dates). If in doubt, ask the seller before bidding. I stick to coins that are easily recognizeable, so when its time to sell, people will not question their value or authenticity. Getting some silver is also good, as you can use it for smaller purchases. Imagine trying to buy a loaf of bread with a one ounce gold coin. They say silver is way overvalued and may appreciate in value much more than gold will. Don't tell anyone you have them or divulge where you keep them. Investing in useful/needed items is also a good idea as some necessities may become unavailable. If you have unusual needs, like an odd shoe size, stock up on sensible shoes, or warm clothing if you live in a cold climate. Garden tools,seeds, emergency cooking supplies, etc. are always a good bet. Good luck.

cj said...

Margaret,

I've purchased from independent sellers as well as Ebay with good results. I got a post office box in a neighboring town and ask that coins be sent with signature confirmation. So far so good. Those little gold sellers in your neighborhood will give you rock bottom prices for your metals while giving themselves a dandy commission when they sell to you. With Ebay, you can wait until something you want comes along, and if the price gets too high, just wait for another auction to come along. If you're lucky, you can get coins below spot prices. Beware of replica, proof, miniature, copy, reproduction, etc. coins and be sure you are getting coins that are gold or 90% silver (1964 or earlier dates). If in doubt, ask the seller before bidding. I stick to coins that are easily recognizeable, so when its time to sell, people will not question their value or authenticity. Getting some silver is also good, as you can use it for smaller purchases. Imagine trying to buy a loaf of bread with a one ounce gold coin. They say silver is way overvalued and may appreciate in value much more than gold will. Don't tell anyone you have them or divulge where you keep them. Investing in useful/needed items is also a good idea as some necessities may become unavailable. If you have unusual needs, like an odd shoe size, stock up on sensible shoes, or warm clothing if you live in a cold climate. Garden tools,seeds, emergency cooking supplies, etc. are always a good bet. Good luck.

cj said...

Margaret,

I've purchased from independent sellers as well as Ebay with good results. I got a post office box in a neighboring town and ask that coins be sent with signature confirmation. So far so good. Those little gold sellers in your neighborhood will give you rock bottom prices for your metals while giving themselves a dandy commission when they sell to you. With Ebay, you can wait until something you want comes along, and if the price gets too high, just wait for another auction to come along. If you're lucky, you can get coins below spot prices. Beware of replica, proof, miniature, copy, reproduction, etc. coins and be sure you are getting coins that are gold or 90% silver (1964 or earlier dates). If in doubt, ask the seller before bidding. I stick to coins that are easily recognizeable, so when its time to sell, people will not question their value or authenticity. Getting some silver is also good, as you can use it for smaller purchases. Imagine trying to buy a loaf of bread with a one ounce gold coin. They say silver is way overvalued and may appreciate in value much more than gold will. Don't tell anyone you have them or divulge where you keep them. Investing in useful/needed items is also a good idea as some necessities may become unavailable. If you have unusual needs, like an odd shoe size, stock up on sensible shoes, or warm clothing if you live in a cold climate. Garden tools,seeds, emergency cooking supplies, etc. are always a good bet. Good luck.

cj said...

Margaret,

I've purchased from independent sellers as well as Ebay with good results. I got a post office box in a neighboring town and ask that coins be sent with signature confirmation. So far so good. Those little gold sellers in your neighborhood will give you rock bottom prices for your metals while giving themselves a dandy commission when they sell to you. With Ebay, you can wait until something you want comes along, and if the price gets too high, just wait for another auction to come along. If you're lucky, you can get coins below spot prices. Beware of replica, proof, miniature, copy, reproduction, etc. coins and be sure you are getting coins that are gold or 90% silver (1964 or earlier dates). If in doubt, ask the seller before bidding. I stick to coins that are easily recognizeable, so when its time to sell, people will not question their value or authenticity. Getting some silver is also good, as you can use it for smaller purchases. Imagine trying to buy a loaf of bread with a one ounce gold coin. They say silver is way overvalued and may appreciate in value much more than gold will. Don't tell anyone you have them or divulge where you keep them. Investing in useful/needed items is also a good idea as some necessities may become unavailable. If you have unusual needs, like an odd shoe size, stock up on sensible shoes, or warm clothing if you live in a cold climate. Garden tools,seeds, emergency cooking supplies, etc. are always a good bet. Good luck.

cj said...

Margaret,

I've purchased from independent sellers as well as Ebay with good results. I got a post office box in a neighboring town and ask that coins be sent with signature confirmation. So far so good. Those little gold sellers in your neighborhood will give you rock bottom prices for your metals while giving themselves a dandy commission when they sell to you. With Ebay, you can wait until something you want comes along, and if the price gets too high, just wait for another auction to come along. If you're lucky, you can get coins below spot prices. Beware of replica, proof, miniature, copy, reproduction, etc. coins and be sure you are getting coins that are gold or 90% silver (1964 or earlier dates). If in doubt, ask the seller before bidding. I stick to coins that are easily recognizeable, so when its time to sell, people will not question their value or authenticity. Getting some silver is also good, as you can use it for smaller purchases. Imagine trying to buy a loaf of bread with a one ounce gold coin. They say silver is way overvalued and may appreciate in value much more than gold will. Don't tell anyone you have them or divulge where you keep them. Investing in useful/needed items is also a good idea as some necessities may become unavailable. If you have unusual needs, like an odd shoe size, stock up on sensible shoes, or warm clothing if you live in a cold climate. Garden tools,seeds, emergency cooking supplies, etc. are always a good bet. Good luck.

Elmo said...

"Moaning Urban Greenies... They beg to be replaced with something state-of-the-art."

The "state-of-the-art" is what's currently going on in the Gulf of Mexico. Forgive me if I've had enough "progress" for one lifetime!

Rice Farmer said...

On the new breed of truthers and the Cheonan sinking... Of course I'm out of the loop, but if the US et al. faked this to start a war, why is everyone trying so hard to avoid one? SKorea is acting with remarkable restraint (We're taking this to the UN!), Japan has praised SKorea for its restraint, and even the Pentagon didn't label the incident an act of war. Truth is, nobody wants the Korean peninsula to blow up. Not the Chinese (imagine the chaos and influx of desperate, starving refugees!), not the SKoreans, not the Japanese, and not the US. Don't know about Israel and the Vatican... Somebody want to fill me in there?

cj said...

I posted a comment that was appeared 5 times even though I'm sure I entered it only once. My second comment right after it, which voiced a criticism, never appeared. Is there an unwritten rule we only only make happy posts? Seems like we are censoring things we don't want discussed. Is there no room on the lifeboat for those who can't afford a ticket, or is it Let Them Eat Cake for the masses?

CPL said...

@cj

The comments are moderated to avoid the spam monsters taking over so someone has to double check we aren't reading about how A nude Lady Gaga with Britney Spears wants to help us refinance our debt with low cost prescription drugs from Canada.

And a "lifeboat" is intended for you and your community to establish. It isn't up to anyone of us to save your ass. It's up to you to manage your own affairs. Could you imagine what they lifeboat would look like if the government were in charge.

I think the hurricane Katrina camps would look like Disneyland in comparison. This is more about personal and local preparedness, rather than government intervention.