With the arrival of Peak Oil, the curtain has closed on Act 1 of the drama Petroleum Man. What will happen in Act 2? Chekhov said, "If there's a gun on the wall at the beginning of the play, by the end it must go off." In the world's nuclear arsenal are many guns on the wall. If life copies art, will there be an Act 3 in which the players, having learned their lesson the hard way, live sustainably? To explore these and other questions... FTW's Act 2 Blog. Read, comment, take heart! Orkin
Wednesday, October 04, 2006
VZ/Arab Terrorists; US: China/Bioweapons; Iran: 9/11/White House; Ahmed: London Terror; Ukraine Gas; Mx/Vz Energy
with reference to the comment below, plz note that ftw does NOT endorse the 'no plane at the pentagon' theory. it is a hoax used to discredit valid evidence via 'guilt by association.'
TNT in Tampa has left a new comment on your post "VZ/Arab Terrorists; US: China/Bioweapons; Iran: 9/11/White House; Ahmed: London Terror; Ukraine Gas; Mx/Vz Energy":
This really isn't in response to the post. I just didn't know where else to put it. I was never much of a "believer" coming into this. It was plausible for be to think that the government knew and did nothing. I could go there. Then I read Operation Northwoods. It was mind blowing. My mom has been researching the passenger lists from 9/11. She can't find 95% of the passengers on the Social Security Death Index. I just assumed she was doing it wrong or that there was some explanation. But after reading Northwoods, it's possible that there were decoys, aliases. I have to do more research, but it's definitely more possible to me now.
Edward has left a new comment on your post "VZ/Arab Terrorists; US: China/Bioweapons; Iran: 9/11/White House; Ahmed: London Terror; Ukraine Gas; Mx/Vz Energy":
Hey, I'm moving up into the hills in Idaho in preparation for Peak Oil. I invite all of you to join me... I know you don't like bears much, Jenna. But I'll protect you. Hope you like elk.
It's intriguing to wonder what hit the Pentagon, but it's hopeless to spend a lot of time on it, as far as I can see. Our case is already made on the strength of known and verifiable facts, and the 9/11 truth movement should be pursuing that angle instead of pissing away its time and energy on arguing about why the towers crumbled, etc.
JMC -- I see your point. My feeling about the physical-evidence approach is that it's useful as a starting point to get people thinking about 9/11. There's no argument that it has served that purpose well. But listening to these debates about the Pentagon and WTC seems to illustrate that -- for both sides -- it's highly speculative and ultimately futile. Now we have two sets of "experts" engaged in what essentially is a shouting match, with each side claiming to be more expert, and dismissing the other side's claims.
Meanwhile, too few people are confronting debunkers and regime apologists with highly damaging evidence that supports our case. Questions about money, drugs, oil, the war games, timeline contradictions, and the like get pushed off the stage because everybody is so bewitched by photographic analysis. This is just fine with the other side, as it's clear that they enjoy baiting us with the towers while avoiding these other topics. So the physical evidence turns out to be a distraction when getting into public debate about 9/11.
There is no mention of "Nanshui Beidiao," the South-North Water Diversion Project, a huge project conceived back in the days of Chairman Mao. It's getting more attention in recent years.
Well, TNT may be right, but 9/11 is such a monstrous crime that if critical mass is attained, it could serve as a catalyst to awaken the bulk of Americans to the absolute corruption of their government. It could spell the doom of the Doctrine of American Exceptionalism, which is the mental block that prevents Americans from seeing the evil that has gripped their own country.
That's my hope, however slim. The alternative is the iron grip of the police state.
The recent slump in crude prices, causes aside, provides OPEC with a good excuse to cut production, which I suspect members would like to do in any case... or perhaps the decline has proceeded so far now that this is just a good cover for what they would have had to do anyway.
Rice Farmer, thanks for the news links. Sakhalin 2 is (was) to provide 8% of Japan's NG in 2008. I think they will probably get it, but with a delay that could put electric companies in a bind.
Now Azadegan is on the back burner. I wonder what assurances or pressure Japan is getting from the US. As Jim Kunstler once remarked to me about Japan - "they don't have time to f&%* around".
TNT -- Sorry to say, the seasons rule. If there's one thing I've learned from gardening, it's that we have to do things nature's way. Each food plant has a seasonal "window" (for some vegetables, twice a year) in which it must be planted to flourish, and we have to observe that. On the positive side, you will find this gets you in tune with the seasons, and you'll realize that a lot of that stuff in the supermarkets simply wouldn't be there most of the year without oil.
I recall a story about how California's Governor Arnie literally fled the scene after giving a speech to an unreceptive crowd. And look at how Bush is barricaded in all the time. The guy lives in not only a reality bubble, but also a physical bubble. More concentration camps are being built not for illegal aliens, but to imprison Americans whom the elites are afraid of.
with reference to the comment below, plz note that ftw does NOT endorse the 'no plane at the pentagon' theory. it is a hoax used to discredit valid evidence via 'guilt by association.'
ReplyDeleteTNT in Tampa has left a new comment on your post "VZ/Arab Terrorists; US: China/Bioweapons; Iran: 9/11/White House; Ahmed: London Terror; Ukraine Gas; Mx/Vz Energy":
This really isn't in response to the post. I just didn't know where else to put it. I was never much of a "believer" coming into this. It was plausible for be to think that the government knew and did nothing. I could go there. Then I read Operation Northwoods. It was mind blowing. My mom has been researching the passenger lists from 9/11. She can't find 95% of the passengers on the Social Security Death Index. I just assumed she was doing it wrong or that there was some explanation. But after reading Northwoods, it's possible that there were decoys, aliases. I have to do more research, but it's definitely more possible to me now.
Edward has left a new comment on your post "VZ/Arab Terrorists; US: China/Bioweapons; Iran: 9/11/White House; Ahmed: London Terror; Ukraine Gas; Mx/Vz Energy":
ReplyDeleteHey, I'm moving up into the hills in Idaho in preparation for Peak Oil. I invite all of you to join me... I know you don't like bears much, Jenna. But I'll protect you. Hope you like elk.
It's intriguing to wonder what hit the Pentagon, but it's hopeless to spend a lot of time on it, as far as I can see. Our case is already made on the strength of known and verifiable facts, and the 9/11 truth movement should be pursuing that angle instead of pissing away its time and energy on arguing about why the towers crumbled, etc.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of 9/11, on Saturday there is an international 9/11 conference in Tokyo. Here's the website.
ReplyDeletehttp://911.globalpeace.jp/911TICJ/English.html
This blog will also post news about it.
http://yumikikuchi.blogspot.com/
Unfortunately I suppose they will be debating the Pentagon and the WTC.
JMC -- I see your point. My feeling about the physical-evidence approach is that it's useful as a starting point to get people thinking about 9/11. There's no argument that it has served that purpose well. But listening to these debates about the Pentagon and WTC seems to illustrate that -- for both sides -- it's highly speculative and ultimately futile. Now we have two sets of "experts" engaged in what essentially is a shouting match, with each side claiming to be more expert, and dismissing the other side's claims.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, too few people are confronting debunkers and regime apologists with highly damaging evidence that supports our case. Questions about money, drugs, oil, the war games, timeline contradictions, and the like get pushed off the stage because everybody is so bewitched by photographic analysis. This is just fine with the other side, as it's clear that they enjoy baiting us with the towers while avoiding these other topics. So the physical evidence turns out to be a distraction when getting into public debate about 9/11.
Anyway, that's my take.
China running out of water
ReplyDeletehttp://environment.guardian.co.uk/water/story/0%2C%2C1886610%2C00.html
There is no mention of "Nanshui Beidiao," the South-North Water Diversion Project, a huge project conceived back in the days of Chairman Mao. It's getting more attention in recent years.
Well, TNT may be right, but 9/11 is such a monstrous crime that if critical mass is attained, it could serve as a catalyst to awaken the bulk of Americans to the absolute corruption of their government. It could spell the doom of the Doctrine of American Exceptionalism, which is the mental block that prevents Americans from seeing the evil that has gripped their own country.
ReplyDeleteThat's my hope, however slim. The alternative is the iron grip of the police state.
Azadegan oil field project on the ropes
ReplyDeletehttp://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8KICQ9G0.htm
One of today's big news items on the Japanese financial pages.
Japan loses most of stake in Azadegan
ReplyDeletehttp://today.reuters.com/news/articleinvesting.aspx?view=CN&storyID=2006-10-06T125815Z_01_T33709_RTRIDST_0_ENERGY-JAPAN-INPEX-UPDATE-5.XML&rpc=66&type=qcna
Down from 75% to 10%.
This is truthful, but blunt. Don't play around any kids.
ReplyDeleteGeorge Carlin's typical blunt humor.
The recent slump in crude prices, causes aside, provides OPEC with a good excuse to cut production, which I suspect members would like to do in any case... or perhaps the decline has proceeded so far now that this is just a good cover for what they would have had to do anyway.
ReplyDeleteRice Farmer, thanks for the news links. Sakhalin 2 is (was) to provide 8% of Japan's NG in 2008. I think they will probably get it, but with a delay that could put electric companies in a bind.
ReplyDeleteNow Azadegan is on the back burner. I wonder what assurances or pressure Japan is getting from the US. As Jim Kunstler once remarked to me about Japan - "they don't have time to f&%* around".
Subtle energy negotiations -
ReplyDelete"Chief engineer at BP unit in Siberia is slain"
He was found by his wife in a sauna, shot 3 times - once through the head.
TNT -- Sorry to say, the seasons rule. If there's one thing I've learned from gardening, it's that we have to do things nature's way. Each food plant has a seasonal "window" (for some vegetables, twice a year) in which it must be planted to flourish, and we have to observe that. On the positive side, you will find this gets you in tune with the seasons, and you'll realize that a lot of that stuff in the supermarkets simply wouldn't be there most of the year without oil.
ReplyDeleteElites Are Afraid of the People
ReplyDeleteAnother example of how elites in power are afraid of the people.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06280/728177-53.stm
I recall a story about how California's Governor Arnie literally fled the scene after giving a speech to an unreceptive crowd. And look at how Bush is barricaded in all the time. The guy lives in not only a reality bubble, but also a physical bubble. More concentration camps are being built not for illegal aliens, but to imprison Americans whom the elites are afraid of.
http://ricefarmer.blogspot.com/2005/07/right-is-terrified-of-people.html
http://ricefarmer.blogspot.com/2005/06/fear-of-people-hounds-right.html
http://ricefarmer.blogspot.com/2006/01/bush-spies-on-those-whom-he-fears_02.html
Beijing holds whip hand over slowing US
ReplyDeletehttp://www.atimes.com/atimes/China_Business/HJ04Cb02.html
Iran, Beijing's key to the Middle East
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/HJ07Ad01.html
Defense and Military Education: A Dimension of Chinese Power
http://www.pinr.com/report.php?ac=view_report&report_id=562&language_id=1
hi rice farmer - the last link you sent has been referred to the main ftw page. many thx
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