tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post791233090788039445..comments2024-03-26T11:32:37.965-07:00Comments on From the Wilderness' Peak Oil Blog: Jenna Orkinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05812985825726850202noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-52346751642220122722009-04-23T08:08:00.000-07:002009-04-23T08:08:00.000-07:00Dear Eyeballs:
With due respect, this article was...Dear Eyeballs:<br /><br />With due respect, this article was written by an "ultra-American" conservative and Wall Street CEO who represents the bedrock of your country's social values and those who established them. His name is David P. Goodman, and till recently he used the pseudonym "Spengler". This man is a vehement "East baiter" and detests Muslims and all things alien to the Judaeo-Christian stereotype, so therefore he should be right up your American street - except that perhaps he doesn't share your enthusiasm for the likes of Jimi Hendrix. In most of those things I agree with "Spengler", except that I manage to enjoy listening to Pink Floyd, The Rolling Stones, The Eagles, Bon Jovi and Bruce Springsteen, etc. - minus the drugs and the LSD of course.F.Kamilovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10367438225330977373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-33451541402255248692009-04-23T06:22:00.000-07:002009-04-23T06:22:00.000-07:00agape wins wrote in part:
http://www.newsweek.com...agape wins wrote in part:<br /><br />http://www.newsweek.com/id/193491<br /><br />It is clear to me what Mike Tyson says, what Allison thinks, and what<br />Newsweek wants to convey, this article is clearer to me than any I<br />have read in some time, work it over with some friends, pick it apart,<br />it will improve how you think!<br /><br />MCR was vary clear in Rubicon, but there were other voices,<br />I expect "A Presidential Energy Policy" to be clearer, AND even<br />more convincing, because he is more in control of the entire process!<br />Amae.Jenna Orkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05812985825726850202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-65665401808994740582009-04-23T03:11:00.000-07:002009-04-23T03:11:00.000-07:00Thanks to Rice Farmer's suggestion, I now have pot...Thanks to Rice Farmer's suggestion, I now have potatoes coming up - a small area in my yard as well as some in a large container. <br /><br />A neighbor brought by some small daikon radishes the other day which we've enjoyed raw in salads as well as cooked along side sweet potatoes. <br /><br />We share our extra mikan (tangerines) and cumquats. <br /><br />Doing what we can for ourselves while being a good neighbor. <br /><br />Works for us.Pandaboniumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08352197350806179930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-71004158294109275412009-04-22T23:21:00.000-07:002009-04-22T23:21:00.000-07:00I fear greatly the analysis paralysis gripping thi...I fear greatly the analysis paralysis gripping this great country from a wall street toxic capitalist game. It seems nothing left in wall street is non toxic. <br />The people need to see the green technology capitulation that is taking place in wall street. They really should not be paying attention to anything else. <br />Is Obama lying? I don't know. Every cabinet member is a wall street crook. It does'nt look good. What does the Fed fear in releasing green energy technology? Power<br /><br /> I am in a place where, if you don't eco nest soon, and start coming together with a budget of something like $20 grand a family on 2000 acres somewhere at $2000 an acre. And each family of 300 families gets 5 acres, a green house and some solar pumps, and the access to share $800 grand of equipment, then there is no hope. Every city council I have researched has failed creating a power park model. They can not install " small". Like the above plan of $6 million is small. Small is beautiful in green energy. Everyone of them is more efficient in small scale than commercial. Thats just the way the ball is bouncing in green energy technology.<br /><br />That is the cheapest I can get you going with a real good model for the future. Living in a food food forest in 5 years, building bio char sustainable soils.<br /><br />Someone might do another one. BUt I have done my homework. I need pioneers.ecosutrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11504996837852179994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-43278982445221034482009-04-22T22:57:00.000-07:002009-04-22T22:57:00.000-07:00Mike, I love the discipline. I just cant believe i...Mike, I love the discipline. I just cant believe its not me getting in trouble. <br /><br />I love the fighting between the Kamilov and Eyeballs, lol. There is some serious chemistry in this house.<br /><br />For all in LA! I have found an important network of heavy hitting green builders that are saying the land near the LA river in downtown is being handed over to people like us. We just need to get the grants going and start food foresting the LA river. Developing...ecosutrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11504996837852179994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-10153366413047542202009-04-22T20:14:00.000-07:002009-04-22T20:14:00.000-07:00Hey, Kamilov!
Again this "Ha-ha, the West is doom...Hey, Kamilov!<br /><br />Again this "Ha-ha, the West is doomed." I wish you lived in Taiwan, so we could have long discussions. I find myself constantly in the defensive position on America, which I find awkward but can't help doing.<br /><br />True, the dominant forces in the West have set mediocrity as a cultural norm, and punished deviation from that norm both with legal repression and with scorn and rejection by the self-satisfied mass. <br /><br />Yet this competition with The West vs. The Rest is not a healthy notion. Because you see only what the media release, quite a lot of the value of America is invisible to you. The author of your article likes discipline and achievement, but there are other important values to feed the world.<br /><br />As an American who lived Jimi Hendrix, the Haight Ashbury, surfing and (real) rock 'n' roll, I can tell you that there is more in The West than mediocrity. It's just that mediocrity has been so efficiently encouraged, and its opposite so persecuted, that it takes as much "discipline and dedication" just to be a real person in America as it does to be a concert pianist in China. Long hours of discipline will develop virtuosity, but they cannot teach Life, which is what is going on outside the practice room.<br /><br />China will not produce a Jimi Hendrix. True, they have state- and parental-discipline, they work long hours and get selected from a billion and a third candidates. But this kind of rigor produces only technicians, not artists. In Chinese tradition, the Taoists withdrew from this tedious current of Chinese culture, creating arguably the most interesting cultural trends to come out of East Asia. Taoist philosophy does not play much of a role in modern, go-gettum China.<br /><br />Actually, dividing The West from The Rest does no one any good. True, racism and aggressive capitalism have separated the two in the past, but as China embraces capitalism and America studies Taoism, lines blur. Those whose ancestors were oppressed by Western aggression may desire to take it out on the descendents of the oppressor, but this strategy has not been very successful in the past. It's legacy in Zimbabwe for instance, is quite poignant. China itself lost a great deal by thrashing the remnants of the oppressive upper class in the Cultural Revolution. Black culture in America has had tremendous influence on the mainstream through patient integration, and I think this provides a better model for co-creation of a descent future.<br /><br />Cooperation between the peoples of the world is the only way we're gonna make it through this difficult time, and come out with a world worth visiting.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15089030424077326543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-37867773629983634452009-04-22T19:07:00.000-07:002009-04-22T19:07:00.000-07:00harvkilljoy wrote in part:
Thanks again Jenna, Mi...harvkilljoy wrote in part:<br /><br />Thanks again Jenna, Mike, for all of this- much of it's way over my head, but I'm learnin' to swim with your guidance.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Alan aka "HARV"Jenna Orkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05812985825726850202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-48370892919296962682009-04-22T15:34:00.000-07:002009-04-22T15:34:00.000-07:00Read this. It is excellent:
Why the West is Boyle...Read this. It is excellent:<br /><br />Why the West is Boyle'd<br /><br />http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/KD21Ad01.htmlF.Kamilovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10367438225330977373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-48453255973029592672009-04-22T12:12:00.000-07:002009-04-22T12:12:00.000-07:00ben
your message was fwded thxben<br />your message was fwded thxJenna Orkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05812985825726850202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-20282191103903456172009-04-22T10:50:00.000-07:002009-04-22T10:50:00.000-07:00Mike...Will there be a premiere of your movie in L...Mike...Will there be a premiere of your movie in L.A. or in any other areas that people will be able to attend?businessmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14014863390357287025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-81039090678493526772009-04-22T08:20:00.000-07:002009-04-22T08:20:00.000-07:00Got it, Mike.
It was a learning experience for me...Got it, Mike.<br /><br />It was a learning experience for me.<br /><br />Let's get back on track again.businessmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14014863390357287025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-78748753957494499472009-04-22T04:38:00.000-07:002009-04-22T04:38:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03229697161527136177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-51785522250637211032009-04-22T04:34:00.000-07:002009-04-22T04:34:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.winstonsmithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13947075477053186411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-75071088178581498772009-04-22T03:27:00.000-07:002009-04-22T03:27:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Hugh Barrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15744174630595933909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-67414698990341117842009-04-22T00:24:00.000-07:002009-04-22T00:24:00.000-07:00is it an ebook? or cd?
why so many points? nothin...is it an ebook? or cd?<br /><br />why so many points? nothing to do but wait. at least it's only a week or two. :)brellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02417238313152900550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-37352275002020889262009-04-21T23:34:00.000-07:002009-04-21T23:34:00.000-07:00cj...I don't think Jenna is saying she agrees with...cj...I don't think Jenna is saying she agrees with the mainstream media story about what happened on 9/11. I think she's just saying there are other arguments outside of the paper these scientists and others have submitted that are more convincing about what really happened, and much less likely or close to impossible to have been manipulated.<br /><br />Although I'd like to believe that the scientists and the people involved in writing this paper wouldn't have manipulated the experiment for their own personal gain, Rice Farmer and Jenna have made me recognize that even scientists could covet fame and celebrity so much that they'd do whatever it takes to achieve it.<br /><br />With this in mind, while their paper could be accurate, we'll never know if the samples of the dust they utilized were tainted in advance to produce the results they wanted to see in the experiment...or not.<br /><br />So in effect, we can't really verify that their experiment and conclusions are solidly based on sound science.businessmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14014863390357287025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-12764816519278083122009-04-21T22:59:00.000-07:002009-04-21T22:59:00.000-07:00Many of you will have come across Indian ecologist...Many of you will have come across Indian ecologist and activist Vandana Shiva. This 40 minute presentation (http://vodpod.com/watch/1474602-vandana-shiva-the-future-of-food-and-seed) by her at the end of February this year is as always an impassioned defence of the sanctity of seed as one of the principal sources of life. It's also an equally impassioned condemnation of the manifold injustices that flow from the conversion of seed from the common heritage of humanity into private property monopolies in the hands of the five giant seed and chemical conglomerates that now dominate the global seed industry. This presentation highlights why it's so important that individual communities worldwide take steps to protect our common cultural and biological heritage through the establishment of seed saver networks.AussieGalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16666115969276584001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-6068034586464339042009-04-21T21:14:00.000-07:002009-04-21T21:14:00.000-07:00BUSINESSMAN -- You've been so valuable but what yo...BUSINESSMAN -- You've been so valuable but what you're doing now is a major distraction that cannot contibute to what's most important for all of us.<br /><br />The building demolition crap will not be injected into my list -- ever. From a legal standpoint nothing of what your posts are about is legally admissible evidence and proves nothing. Even if thermite were used, this so-called evidence (which wouldn't be considered by any court) does nothing to prove who put it there does it?<br /><br />This is a distraction I won't permit. Your intelligence and loyatly and friendship are valued here. But the timing of this is highly suspect to me. If Jenna doesn't stop posting this thread I will.<br /><br />I learned a long time ago that if COINTELPRO isn't nipped in the bud early it gets real "expensive" later on.<br /><br />Go back and read FTW and what I wrote about physical evidence for the last eight years. Did you read Rubicon?<br /><br />That's the last 9/11 physical evidence post I'll alow here. There are many other places more suitable for that. This is a blog that does things.<br /><br />MCRMCRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05338936496305240656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-43281039730307105912009-04-21T20:00:00.000-07:002009-04-21T20:00:00.000-07:00cj
legitimate arguments about put options and war...cj<br /><br />legitimate arguments about put options and war games are not equivalent to questionable science about a substance of dubious origin.Jenna Orkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05812985825726850202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-21237540934678117352009-04-21T19:31:00.000-07:002009-04-21T19:31:00.000-07:00Thanks both Rice Farmer and Jenna...:)
LOL...Jenn...Thanks both Rice Farmer and Jenna...:)<br /><br />LOL...Jenna is such an expert on 9/11...and has been through so much around it...that she recognizes so quickly that which may be true from that which may be B.S.--no matter how good the B.S. may look to some of us who have also studied 9/11.<br /><br />It reminds me of what some people used to say about Henry Aaron, the great home run hitter in baseball here in the United States:<br /><br />"Trying to sneak a fastball past Henry Aaron was like trying to sneak a sunrise past a rooster."businessmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14014863390357287025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-20065700966174679002009-04-21T19:22:00.000-07:002009-04-21T19:22:00.000-07:00Jenna:
I'm confused by your response to businessm...Jenna:<br /><br />I'm confused by your response to businessman. How can you poo-poo businessman's documentary when you could post that article about the Shroud of Turin? Where is your science on that one? Do you really believe that just by coincidence 25 Saudis just happened to hijack planes right in the middle of a terrorism exercise exactly while our former VP was at the controls to stop the fighter jets from scrambling? The director for security at the WTC right up to the tragedy was none other than Marvin Bush, something that the press has done a great job of concealing. Also, there was a power-down of the whole complex right before it happened, which would have provided ample opportunity for rigging this up. This could have been in the planning phase for years. How is it there has been no prosecution or war efforts against Saudi Arabia, if the hijackers were from there? The CIA can surveille anyone's most private records, yet the bank records for those puts and calls on the major airlines in the weeks before 911 were too sacred to divulge. None of this makes any sense. A scientist with good methods can extrapolate data to provide estimates in the cases of dusts and vapors covering large areas. This article was subtitled from Danish, so the language may have been simplified. I've come to the point to where I believe just about anything could be possible in today's world. The media just keeps things hazy and scrambled to assure we don't all come to the same conclusion and revolt. My mother was an newsreel editor during WWII. She always said a far as the news goes, the truth is always left on the cutting room floor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-90625142376803358202009-04-21T19:09:00.001-07:002009-04-21T19:09:00.001-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jenna Orkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05812985825726850202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-91834795763016148902009-04-21T19:09:00.000-07:002009-04-21T19:09:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jenna Orkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05812985825726850202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-1573424773463910622009-04-21T19:08:00.000-07:002009-04-21T19:08:00.000-07:00businessman, where would we be without you? but h...businessman, where would we be without you? but here's another nail in the coffin of the nanothermite argument from a reader who goes by the monicker "m":<br /><br />from M: <br /> <br />the journal that this alleged scientific report (tons of nanothermite) was published in is a newsletter based in UAE. There might be some politics interfering with objectivity here. A bag of dust from a 9/11 truther that supposedly was in her NYC apartment provided years after the event is not "chain of custody." <br /> <br />Nanothermite seems about as real as the "hologram" claim that used to infest the suburbs of the "truth" movement some years ago. <br /> <br />All three towers - even WTC 7 - were observed leaning and bulging before they fell down. And no demolition theories seem particularly interested in the structural impact of large planes flying full speed into the towers or the parts of the towers that fell on WTC 7 (first time that has ever happened). <br /> <br />I'm waiting for the "no buildings" theories.Jenna Orkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05812985825726850202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-4063324975577717772009-04-21T18:43:00.000-07:002009-04-21T18:43:00.000-07:00Businessman -- I too appreciate your posts. But on...Businessman -- I too appreciate your posts. But on the WTC destruction I have to agree with Jenna.<br /><br />Don't get me wrong -- I personally have little doubt that explosives were involved. But the physical-evidence case for that would easily be demolished in court.<br /><br />Same goes for photographic evidence. Jenna mentions the "chain of custody" problem, which equally affects all the photographs out there on the web. A Japanese acquaintance of mine, who was for many years a photographer for a wire service, wrote a book about how unreliable photographs can be. And you'd be surprised to see how a simple operation such as cropping can totally change the information gleaned from a photo. So although the photos are interesting to look at, they actually give us very little reliable information, and could in fact be highly deceptive. We have no idea who did what to them.<br /><br />Therein lies the value of "Rubicon." It avoids all those pitfalls and builds its case on a foundation of verifiable facts.<br /><br />I've said it a million times: The 9/11 truth movement has done itself irreparable harm by trying to build its case on photos, videos, and the physical evidence. It's a shame, but I think that's one reason why justice will never be done.Rice Farmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09172342023074235356noreply@blogger.com