tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post3400777473489653047..comments2024-03-26T11:32:37.965-07:00Comments on From the Wilderness' Peak Oil Blog: Jenna Orkinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05812985825726850202noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-81189525353962265422008-12-10T19:37:00.000-08:002008-12-10T19:37:00.000-08:00Rice Farmer said"What is the "exit strategy"? I be...Rice Farmer said<BR/>"What is the "exit strategy"? I believe that a short time ago I expressed it this way: Imagine a burning building full of our money. Elites see it's too late to put out the fire, so they are stuffing their pockets and designer bags with money and heading for the exits. That's the exit strategy."<BR/><BR/>I think people want to know where on earth are they running to that the angry tourch carrying villagers won't find them?fusion_is_fundamentalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09558983248206928061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-53928839587563919602008-12-03T19:11:00.000-08:002008-12-03T19:11:00.000-08:00To Darknetz, thank you for the reference, you are ...To Darknetz, thank you for the reference, you are right on.<BR/><BR/>As for the other members of this blog, I strongly suggest you watch or read the Grapes of wrath...so much related to what is happening now...<BR/><BR/>Remember, the current context is either a downhill to despair...or to opportunities...opportunities to be the best of what we can be...it depends of the angle of approach...<BR/><BR/>We'll get back to you with some tools we are developing to deal with the exchanges of services between people.<BR/><BR/>Peace on all of you.<BR/><BR/>estebtrobadorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03450974382476441741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-37031628375616430172008-12-03T12:54:00.001-08:002008-12-03T12:54:00.001-08:00John has left a new comment on your post "IS THE M...John has left a new comment on your post "IS THE MAP GETTING CLEARER YET? http://www.reuters...": <BR/><BR/>http://ericmargolis.com/political_commentaries/welcome-to-the-worlds-new-crisis-zone_1.aspx<BR/><BR/>WELCOME TO THE WORLD’S NEW CRISIS ZONE<BR/><BR/>December 01, 2008Jenna Orkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05812985825726850202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-20287728343178654772008-12-03T12:54:00.000-08:002008-12-03T12:54:00.000-08:00John has left a new comment on your post "IS THE M...John has left a new comment on your post "IS THE MAP GETTING CLEARER YET? http://www.reuters...": <BR/><BR/>http://ericmargolis.com/political_commentaries/welcome-to-the-worlds-new-crisis-zone_1.aspx<BR/><BR/>WELCOME TO THE WORLD’S NEW CRISIS ZONE<BR/><BR/>December 01, 2008Jenna Orkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05812985825726850202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-88259355663940255132008-12-03T11:34:00.000-08:002008-12-03T11:34:00.000-08:00Sudeep,Thanks for the link. This is what I suspect...Sudeep,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the link. This is what I suspected from the moment I heard about the attacks. This is confirmation. <BR/><BR/>Agape,<BR/><BR/>Thank you for your post. It's an extremely important example.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-48094072060401704442008-12-03T10:05:00.000-08:002008-12-03T10:05:00.000-08:00http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/US_sets_stage_f...http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/US_sets_stage_for_strikes_if_Pak_does_not_act/articleshow/3789520.cms<BR/><BR/>is this a tree or the forests... maybe a desert...sudeep bhaumickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18323809671920581740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-31182975628041760982008-12-03T04:48:00.000-08:002008-12-03T04:48:00.000-08:00>>>MCR: "Sure, the Club of Rome pape...>>>MCR: "Sure, the Club of Rome paper demonstrated that there was an awareness of the problems. But it did not (as far as I am recall) artuclate a new economic model or a plan to get there."<<<<BR/><BR/>I agree it's a waste of time to look backwards at this kind of stuff. Especially since a new economic model IS emerging. You only need to follow the Transition Towns Movement: http://www.transitiontowns.org/,<BR/>Follow the work of David Korten, read Yes! Magazine (www.yesmagazine.org), read up on the permaculture movement, etc. The links on the home page of this blog are a good place to start too. <BR/><BR/>Understanding what's going on and connecting the dots is one thing. After all, you can't plan your route if you don't have a map and understand how to read it, but getting ourselves bogged down in the intellectual end of things isn't a luxury that we have the time for anymore. We need to spend our energy and the dwindling amount of time we have adapting. <BR/><BR/>Remember two things:<BR/><BR/>1. The new economic model won't emerge unless we build it ourselves. There are plenty of people and groups working on it, but we all have to be a part of it. <BR/><BR/>2. Don't let this stuff consume you either. The late Edward Abbey once said: "When the situation is desperate, it's too late to be serious, be playful". He had a point. Not that you ignore what's going on, only that you don't let it consume you to the point of despair and inaction.gildone84https://www.blogger.com/profile/05410416471995082848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-23848562495618846412008-12-03T04:38:00.000-08:002008-12-03T04:38:00.000-08:00NB Patton - excellent point about wind farms. Do y...NB Patton - excellent point about wind farms. Do you know about the work of Adam Trombly or Peter Lindemann? Google Adam Trombly and read the first article and tell us what you think. Do you think this is really bullshit?timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03229697161527136177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-80036913944284738392008-12-03T00:00:00.000-08:002008-12-03T00:00:00.000-08:00I have to start this with my story, but it's n...I have to start this with my story, but it's not really about me, but about our past and<BR/>what I see as our most positive future:<BR/><BR/>I was born in Michigan, USA, in 1935, in the heart of the Great Depression.<BR/>Mich. didn't recover until 1947!<BR/>I have vivid memories of before I was 6 mo. old; when I was 4 Yrs. old, we were homeless, & unemployed. My father collected Scrap, along with many others, plus some part time jobs for income. A friend donated a Tent, another, a Farmer, let us pitch it in a pasture, I remember snow in the spring, and again in the fall, Mom said we were<BR/>there from April until October, when Child Welfare, moved us into a house.<BR/>I was a wild Boy that Summer because my Mom was busy taking care of my 2 Yr. old brother, & gathering food! I remember eating Dandelion greens, Watercress, Skunks Cabbage, Crawdads, Frog Legs, & Shiners, a small fish, which is eaten whole without<BR/>cleaning, Rabbit, & Squirrel, we had Elderberries, Mulberries, wild Strawberries, Cherries.<BR/>I am sure we had Potatoes, Fish, & other "normal food", but the mind locks on the unusual; I vividly remember the "Can Bread", baked under the campfire--primitive Bread Machine!<BR/>Sometimes good, but mostly not so good, the "Pan Cakes" (Cornbread) was much better!<BR/><BR/>Now to the point of this Rant, Some posters assume that things will be like the 50s, 60s,<BR/>or maybe like the 1930s; well think again, try the 1860s.<BR/><BR/>We are about to loose not only Oil, but clean water, sanitation (Think super dome in New<BR/>Orleans), our taken for granted food supply, our Natural Gas, our electricity (think lines down<BR/>after the first Storm), our Fire Departments, Hospitals, & our Police ( think New Orleans again)!!<BR/><BR/>I demand that every one of you get a copy of "Our Daily Bread" a film put together from 1934 to<BR/>1940; Netflix has it: https://www.netflix.com/Register<BR/><BR/>Please watch it carefully, ignore the politics, this is not major studio computer "ART",<BR/>where are the others of My generation? Look them up, find out what Tough is, I lived when a<BR/>day was ruled by the Sun, when things had to be done by hand, OR not at all.<BR/>Where will your internet be when the lines are down, your cellphone, when the satellites come down, when the towers fall? Where are the Horses, & horse drown equipment, where is the technology to put this together? Can you survive alone among the Savages we will become?<BR/>If you have not started a local network, START NOW!agape winshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04414745354700395872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-84209311746198649412008-12-02T22:23:00.000-08:002008-12-02T22:23:00.000-08:00Top Japan steel makers may idle furnaceshttp://www...Top Japan steel makers may idle furnaces<BR/><BR/>http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Top-Japanese-steel-makers-poised/story.aspx?guid=%7BACAB5595%2D7BC8%2D4FB4%2DA61C%2DC6BAA35616E8%7DRice Farmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09172342023074235356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-6378628037124701102008-12-02T22:21:00.000-08:002008-12-02T22:21:00.000-08:00Isn't it ironic that in ancient times, our ancesto...Isn't it ironic that in ancient times, our ancestors worshipped trees, and now, as we are just about out of trees to cut, our civilization is collapsing, as so many other kingdoms have fallen throughout history when the forests got used up. And don't forget that the oil isn't dinosaur bones, it is forests from long ago. When you put your foot down on the pedals in the car, remember the heads of the third world children you are stepping on, and when you pick up the pump, right under where it says "SELF," think of it as a weapon gunning down not just your fellow men, but all life on Earth, poisoning the water and the air.pagunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10985546354012642451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-86033010142104248022008-12-02T19:17:00.000-08:002008-12-02T19:17:00.000-08:00John has left a new comment on your post "IS THE M...John has left a new comment on your post "IS THE MAP GETTING CLEARER YET? http://www.reuters...": <BR/><BR/>Special Reports<BR/>More evidence of CIA-backed syndicate involvement in Mumbai attacks<BR/>By Wayne Madsen<BR/>Online Journal Contributing Writer<BR/><BR/>http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_4075.shtmlJenna Orkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05812985825726850202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-3461392540420575362008-12-02T18:58:00.000-08:002008-12-02T18:58:00.000-08:00I love reading Mike’s blog, and the insights it gi...I love reading Mike’s blog, and the insights it gives me into the “Real deal” of what’s going on in the World, and I think I understand where he’s coming from (possibly). What I see is a number of “Elites” (for want of a better term), that are jockeying for power and control (read access to energy primarily, but other key resources too), using varying and shifting degrees of persuasion, lies, deception, violence, fear and bribery. I also think these “Elites” are not homogenous, and run the gamut from the completely delusional (“I/we can control anything and everything at all times”), to those with perfect insight, who must feel (I assume), like frightened rabbits caught in the headlights. Added to this volatile mix is a historical system that demands infinite growth in a finite World, just at the point where the keystone ingredient (energy), is about to take an even steeper swan dive. Interesting times. But we have power, more than we currently know or understand, and I have learnt this from my own personal experience. For instance (just a tiny example here), when myself and just another “Mum” (like me), campaigned for increased school bus safety (with zero official backing or resources), I managed to annoy the relevant Minister so much that he personally left a message on my friend’s mobile phone, banning me from speaking to his whole department. Of course, the aforesaid message ended up on prime time news. But the moral of this tale is/was that I was completely amazed that I MATTERED enough to such “Big” man to create such waves, and that I had obviously caught his attention, and got under his skin. And in another example, when I was bullied at work (and I’m at the lowest end of the hierarchy), The-Powers-That-Be initially treated me like shit, but I won through sheer bloody minded (and strategic), persistence. I gave them hell, and wouldn’t stop. In the end they settled my issues just to make me go away, and cease making life so uncomfortable for them. I don’t know where it came from, but I did and said things that (maybe), other would have been afraid of – and rather than eat me for breakfast, the “Gods” turned out to be toothless paper tigers that shivered when I roared. So, in summary, “The Elites” need us more than we need them, because they are completely dependent on a complex society that currently provides everything from their open heart surgery to their shoe laces. They are not controlling events (even though it may look like that on the surface), rather they are at the mercy of events.Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14602799321470252577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-40575977448883050002008-12-02T17:39:00.000-08:002008-12-02T17:39:00.000-08:00There were a few sounding the alarm about peak oil...There were a few sounding the alarm about peak oil long before any of us was on the scene.<BR/><BR/>Admiral Rickover, for one. From 1957:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.theoildrum.com/node/2724" REL="nofollow">Oil drum</A>Unrepentantcowboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16348152020479469764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-36719710242163509292008-12-02T17:00:00.000-08:002008-12-02T17:00:00.000-08:00I am a translator by profession, and the only reas...I am a translator by profession, and the only reason I ever go to a machine translation service is for a good laugh. Results may sometimes sound like the "gist" of the original, but could actually be highly misleading. But mostly you get gibberish. In short, get a human.<BR/><BR/>What is the "exit strategy"? I believe that a short time ago I expressed it this way: Imagine a burning building full of our money. Elites see it's too late to put out the fire, so they are stuffing their pockets and designer bags with money and heading for the exits. That's the exit strategy.<BR/><BR/>Let me expand on MCR's forest metaphor (I am not speaking for MCR here). When an ecological community undergoes a change from one state to another (grassland to forest, or one type of forest to another) that is called "transition." We are watching a massive transition taking place as industrial civilization totters. Though individual trees in the forest might try to stop the transition, they are helpless to do so. Sure, they could shake their limbs and try to spread their seeds farther afield, but such efforts are for naught because huge and inexorable forces are at work. 9/11 was an abortive attempt by the Imperial American Tree to thwart the transition. We can all see how poorly it succeeded. We need to put incidents like Mumbai into the context of transition. The same goes for pirates, who are doing what comes naturally by exploiting the nascent power vacuum on the world's oceans. Pirates can already see the chinks in the armor. Hence, watch for growing disorder and outright chaos. At the same time, various forces will be stepping into power vacuums as they occur around the globe.<BR/><BR/>So the "exit strategy" is "grab what you can while the grabbing is good" because the times they are a changin'.Rice Farmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09172342023074235356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-61933878660360028802008-12-02T15:58:00.000-08:002008-12-02T15:58:00.000-08:00US official: India attack may have Pakistani roots...US official: India attack may have Pakistani roots<BR/>http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/12/us_official_india_attack_may_h.php <BR/><BR/>"Defense Secretary Robert Gates said that U.S. and British citizens were the targets of the violent siege, although most of those killed in the city, the nation's financial capital, were Indians."<BR/><BR/>Did Gates slip or is this more disinfo?Don Hyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00771151285748533050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-32550763786744694872008-12-02T15:20:00.000-08:002008-12-02T15:20:00.000-08:00More "forest" on Mumbai. This Kissinger led Obama ...More "forest" on Mumbai. This Kissinger led Obama economic group was in Mumbai on 11/22/08; not sure if they were there during the assualt.<BR/><BR/>Iran-Pakistan-India pipeline a natural thing to do: Kissinger<BR/>http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=182992Don Hyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00771151285748533050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-60660777703950315322008-12-02T13:52:00.000-08:002008-12-02T13:52:00.000-08:00Here's a great article discussing the topic of soc...Here's a great article discussing the topic of social networks, forums, blogs, etc:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html" REL="nofollow">A Group Is Its Own Worst Enemy</A>DarkNetzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11095796197020081802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-56498037337901568412008-12-02T13:26:00.000-08:002008-12-02T13:26:00.000-08:00Any comments on this analysis by Webster G. Tarple...Any comments on this analysis by Webster G. Tarpley (I found he also features in some articles on FWT)?<BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ex0aZt886M<BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbaGCA1IhF0<BR/><BR/>Synopsis:<BR/>===<BR/>U.S. and Britain want to see Pakistan balkanized so China loses support.<BR/><BR/>U.S. wants to drive China out of Africa and surround and drain it of oil.<BR/><BR/>This should lead China to look at the Russian resources as it last resort, playing those against each other.<BR/><BR/>Obama is a mascotte to sway the world and Europe in particular. For the rest: it is normal CFR behaviour with Brezinski (sorry for any mispelling) calling the shots.<BR/><BR/>The Neo-cons were just picking on those with no real ability to strike back; the Democrats are speeding up the game bigtime.<BR/>===<BR/><BR/>I feel this is a very convincing story...<BR/><BR/>I conclude from this we can expect some more "interresting activity" taking place up until Obama takes his seat. Until then the political powerhouses wil try to look pretty and docile.<BR/><BR/>Some time after Obama settles in I expect a massive international false flag event, one that might break the U.N., or parts of it.<BR/><BR/>Sorry if I'm speculating to wildly but maybe one of you can get some clearvoyance from this.<BR/><BR/>I sadly don't have the room, wealth or social-enabledness to go sustainable here in The Netherlands. My only option is political; try to get people too wake up...Michielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01196468400547923438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-45623923574846764992008-12-02T13:06:00.001-08:002008-12-02T13:06:00.001-08:00This persons web site has a few Russian TV (you tu...This persons web site has a few Russian TV (you tube)videos on Mumbai.<BR/> http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/category/nations/russia/mrs phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01275668463785789879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-71976607488736259052008-12-02T13:06:00.000-08:002008-12-02T13:06:00.000-08:00Absolutely amazing … stunning you could say, what ...Absolutely amazing … stunning you could say, what we are witnessing today. <BR/><BR/>An amazing display of financial markets piro-techniques with the most amazing controlled demolition since 9/11.<BR/><BR/>For people who read Crossing The Rubiccon I just hope that they took corrective action and at least saved something on a personal level. <BR/><BR/>I remember Mike’s famous words on youtube… “GET OUT OF DEBT”<BR/><BR/>Amazingly the SYSTEM is still encouraging the masses to keep reinvesting back in the SYSTEM.<BR/><BR/>The bait is even lower interest rates and even more fiat currency.<BR/> <BR/>Trouble is the dream is over and the cheese has officially moved.<BR/><BR/>I can not add to the great work people are doing here and I certainly would not want to detract from the research and analysis that now needs to take place in order to locate fresh supplies of cheese.<BR/><BR/>I realise and accept that this exercise will require FOCUS.<BR/><BR/>But in case anyone here is interested in looking past the forests and the trees as symptoms and would like to also entertain the possible roots and foundations of the problem I would not look past the work already accomplished by the late Bill Cooper.<BR/><BR/>He certainly made some big mistakes in his life as most human beings clearly do, but certain things he has left us with in his Mystery Babylon Series of broadcasts make sense.<BR/><BR/>Will be reading your work with interest.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11763084983328711663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-25973205420643379622008-12-02T12:47:00.000-08:002008-12-02T12:47:00.000-08:00you guys are making me out to be a cornucopian.i d...you guys are making me out to be a cornucopian.<BR/><BR/>i didn't say that Gilligan & company were going to get off their desert island.<BR/><BR/>how many war & disaster references do you need in a post to be a proper doomer ?<BR/><BR/>to counter-balance my other post, here are some doomer images<BR/><BR/>http://images.google.com/images?q=depleted%20uraniumwhistling grizzlybearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16442756870518333739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-61586787237294894982008-12-02T12:41:00.000-08:002008-12-02T12:41:00.000-08:00In The Economy of The Heart, You Are Both Producer...In The Economy of The Heart, You Are Both Producer and Consumer.<BR/>*Disclaimer: Largely editorial contribution<BR/><BR/><BR/>I’m a fan of the tree/forest metaphor myself. The image conjured through your latest was that of an accountant forced to enter a war zone. Hand that pencil pusher an AK and see how he does. <BR/><BR/>In my mini-phantasm, he did pretty well and after a few bouts of exchanging small arms fire, retreating, panicking and shivering in the cold and finally climbing to high ground he collected the scenery. <BR/><BR/>He cut for sign and generally got his shit back together. <BR/><BR/>So along these lines, what my accountant gathers is less a list of trees and more an account of the abnormalities within the visual gloss of the forest. <BR/><BR/>That patch there is a little more yellow. There’s movement just beyond it. Looks like that one’s on fire and spreading to the next stand of pines. <BR/><BR/>Examples include (ubiquitous invitation to add your own here as we are all that quaking accountant on the cold ground): <BR/><BR/>-Pakistan vs. India critical potentialities. <BR/>-Peak Oil reality kicking off extreme feedback loops, awareness thereof suppressed. <BR/>-Generalized and near complete financial looting at all national levels. <BR/>-Two region wars generating terrorists in the Middle East. Proxy attacks abound. <BR/>-Troves of missing heroin. Switzerland legalizes the use. <BR/>-U.S transitional government flirting (heavy petting involved) with socialism. Even Sean Penn (who I like a great deal) is hooking people up. <BR/>-American Christmas is taking on a distinctively Bosnian flavor, retailers in death’s grip. <BR/>-Chavez barreling ahead (another guy it’s hard not to like)<BR/>-Mexico drowning in its own spilled blood<BR/>-California is still hoarding all the good movies and going bankrupt<BR/>-China, still hoarding all the good construction commodities and looking hard at tranche dumping<BR/>-And Africa, well I guess it’s not an abnormality that Africa just continues to be the world’s bitch but hell it’s tough not to mention modern day piracy emboldened by the surrounding chaos. <BR/>-Terrorist group monikers multiply<BR/>-What did I miss….Canada, NZ, Australia still hemming and hawing I guess. <BR/>-Oh yes, Mother Russia. Corrupt, socially/economically stratified and well armed.<BR/>-The old freak on lost retirements….the ultimate goal in life and the young weigh reality against the ever-platitudinous refrain “you can do anything you want.” <BR/><BR/>But this is like post game talk and so, the accountant with his greasy Kalishnikov and muddy boots digs deep, doubles focus. There’s talk of NBC attacks in the next presidency. Scranton-speak insider and Waco-implicated Biden warns of immediate Obama tests-in January. Hmmm. Oil and gold, viciously suppressed. Bernanke tells Ron Paul the shiny shit has not, I repeat not, been considered as a viable alternative reserve currency. Jobs are disappearing like cupcakes at the Old Country Buffet. And speaking of Buffets….and Soros, the accountant having been trained to follow the money, draws a bead on the overall picture and wonders.<BR/><BR/>If globalization is dead, our better angels localize and the demons read The Prince. Does feudalism localize? Or is the world still the stage? How would a secessionist Oregon deal with Taiwanese pirates exactly?<BR/><BR/> The accountant, unaware of dramatic theory, Chekhov or the efficacy of virulent flu strains as might regard their contribution to demand destruction sees instead of inevitability, certain opportunities with returns arriving on varying levels of abstraction.<BR/><BR/>Now while this accountant does indeed lack romanticism he carries among his character certain provisions toward the apprehension of reality. He sees Cheney walk for instance and asks again, in this forest what may not be dark at its roots? <BR/><BR/>People, we love them. Small animals perhaps are nice. The system of nature as a whole, this is rather pleasant and awesome. Yet, these people--narcotized ignorant debt slaves that they are--where is their Chavez? Where is the Chavisimo in say…Orange County or a few miles outside St. Petersburg where in both places flesh and money collide in great heaps of human rubble so as to stagger the mind and heart where it once searched for the good. <BR/><BR/>I say: this good, it must erupt it seems. It must prevail as it were in the face of more tangible, potential eruptions all over the face of this great earth. <BR/><BR/>The beauty of the economy of the heart is that it is not a speculative enterprise, but rather a perfect system where the only component exterior to it is the catalyst to begin the engine. That component is generally necessity, sometimes reason. The pricing mechanism is based entirely on personal attachment to fear paradigms. <BR/><BR/>There is an excess inventory in the hearts of men today and thus his good doppelganger, hungry for his own well being must buy now as the price drops. As prices always must when surplus meets the market. <BR/><BR/>And now the accountant on that lonely scarp sees the forest smoldering here and there, yet green mostly in the round of his purview and asks what my friend will be this heart’s catalyst. <BR/><BR/>Now before I’m tossed overboard with Deepak Chopra, let me say: I’m serious. As the unspoken element of this margin between tyrannous present reality and complicated, perhaps revolutionary future, this tenuous ground we now map, it is charged with people of two kinds: the miniscule group armed with code sheets and ghastly red push buttons and the corresponding vast, oceanic group armed largely with ideas and hope. <BR/><BR/>I believe in the philosophical good as a reification of choice. That is to say, I hope that there is something better down the road. This is your pilgrim’s way. <BR/><BR/>So I ask, in this metaphorical forest and on this real time journey that we map even as it sweeps us forward, where lies the component exterior to men’s hearts which will ignite the strange, wonderful substances in there and light the way through this collapse? <BR/><BR/>First maybe we avoid the falling, flaming trees. Okay, then…can organically produced, worldwide liberty be cultivated out from the char? Ash is a pretty good fertilizer. <BR/><BR/>What tree shall we grow and partake of this time?<BR/><BR/>I preempt any call for the education found in pamphlets, emails to state officials or treaties which may be signed yet not enforced. Something deeper must be unearthed from the whole of us and there is no time for red tape in wars small or large and because if the son of God were really on his way, well I kinda doubt he’d be 8 years late.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Andy EdwardsGrimushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00103703154598316058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-59355911321721801192008-12-02T12:36:00.000-08:002008-12-02T12:36:00.000-08:00Sorry for my wordy speculative off topic last post...Sorry for my wordy speculative off topic last post. I have a naive question at the moment re Mumbai<BR/><BR/>Doesn't Cheney still, (and may always have), his fingers in the pie? Wasn't he instumental in footsying around with Georgia & pushing for their agression to ramp up things in Ossetia? Don't throw the book at me.<BR/>mrspmrs phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01275668463785789879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22903415.post-564483393960821402008-12-02T12:26:00.000-08:002008-12-02T12:26:00.000-08:00Nothing like the Sun, magnets, crystals, wind, rai...Nothing like the Sun, magnets, crystals, wind, rain, sea water, chicken poop, horsecrap. Remember that old saying: (necessity is the mother of invention). Communities need to create think tanks on what their own bare bones resources are right now. Inspiration won't come soon enough though or will it? Maybe small scale local solutions will be all we can get. It's sad money has been diverted and wasted on side alley psuedo energy solutions that benefit only a few while the facts of reality aren't dealt with. <BR/><BR/>So many JOBS could be available if the PTB had a different mindset. Seems like a thankless job for green pioneers or citizens trying to jump start their community into acceptance of what's comming.<BR/>(Pass out Rubicon for starters!) <BR/><BR/>Just organizing research & science at a communiy level is a job in itself. 8 years of going backwards with our heads up our wazoo sure put us in a dark hole. Now we have to climb out and once at ground level what will we find? Total chaos? Fighting over food would be a bit more serious than electronics on black friday.<BR/><BR/>I'd like to think there's a lot more going on in our own backyards where people are getting together to deal with Peak Oil and Peak Everything at a civic level.(At least in the larger coastal areas of the U.S.) They could have a real influence if the Federal PTB would raise immediate incentive for States and Cities to do this. This would be the best so called Homeland Security not the hoo-haw that passes for it now. I've always thought people (the hungry masses) need to be inspired more by their leaders. (Starvation would certainly inpire us.) Give us a job to do, tell us about the coming crisis, curb the lone nuts by opening up everyone to the same reality facts and show us all the map.<--(MCR has already done this) <BR/><BR/>Toss in a manual on how to survive the mess and give rewards for group accomplishments. Volunteers could submit suggestions for the model of surviving peak oil for our communities, states, and the world. Talk about, talk about it, talk about. Obama should wear the words Peak Oil on his lapel. Powering down now is difficult but when the lights go out it will not be a choice. And where is my solar flashlight? mrspmrs phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01275668463785789879noreply@blogger.com