Saturday, August 20, 2016

 
In other words, it was indeed ransom.
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7 comments:

Jenna Orkin said...

the following comment is being posted in minimally edited form. the generally hostile tone shines through nonetheless:

ReserveGrowthRulz has left a new comment on your post "From Jenna Orkin State Department: We were only go...":

Politics, new nukes, a little bit of proof that economics works, some ice melt that doesn't come anywhere near what happened during the Young Dryas but hey, humans weren't around to measure that so only the new stuff matters...so Jenna......WHERE'S THE BEEF?

Is this seriously the best you can do? More than a decade after Mike declared that the country would come apart after the 2nd hurricane piled in behind Katrina and all you've got a decade later is....news? Come on Jenna! Mike could whip up some decent hysteria over at least the floods in Louisiana or turn Zika into another end of the world bird flu CIA designed and released biologic weapon of terror without even coming down off his buzz, and garner some donations to fund his [slightly slanderous references] hobby to boot! And you can't even generate any interest from the all of doomland except my detached and clinical interest in doomer/peaker historical observations along the way? Come on, making up a whopper like Mike did can't be that hard, some spurious relationships here or there (convenient how Zika popped up right before the Olympics right, developed world trying to keep the BRIICS down, etc etc) how hard can this be? If Mike can pretend child molesters are sources for the greatest Dick Cheney black swan plot of this century, how much imagination can it take to pretend that trump is a Russian Manchurian candidate? Even a dullard could pimp that one up, Mike could have turned it into a campaign issue for the Green candidate! You could use it to get at least ONE other commentator on your blog!

6:06 PM
Jenna Orkin said...

what child molesters?

6:06 PM
Jenna Orkin said...

ok I thought it might have been he. mike ruppert never claimed Vreeland was a decent person; vreeland gave everyone headaches of different kinds. but whether or not you're a child molester, if you write of the 9/11 attacks before they happen and your jailer keeps the paper sealed until afterwards, that's not an event that should be overlooked, regardless of how unsavory you may be.

8:48 PM
ReserveGrowthRulz said...

Do you, as what appears to be a woman of at least reasonable intelligence, consider his scribbling on that piece of paper to be insight? He made a list of places, the world trade towers just happened to be on the list. Along with the Sears Tower, the Royal Bank, the World Bank, Parliament, water supplies, the White House, (Scotia building?).

Couldn't even find the word "attack" on his note. Might be there, hard to read hand writing. So sure, it is worth a look. And therein lies the rub. That is it. A terrorist's top 10 list? Written down for some reason that only someone who thinks child prostitution is a good idea might understand?

Once the look was done, the source examined for credibility...what should have happened next? We know what Mike did, but the problem there is the classic Upton Sinclair quote, he couldn't be counted on to see what should have been obvious then, and was proven obvious later, because his income depended on him not seeing it.

5:10 PM
Jenna Orkin said...

Vreeland's note discusses the wtc, the pentagon and Osama bin laden. the sears building and other sites mentioned became prominent in the news following 9/11.
I don't have the verbatim note in front of me but perhaps you do? I would not be so presumptuous as to dismiss such a note because it lacks a specific word.
but the notion that crossing the rubicon can be ignored because it was just written for the ka-ching effect is amusingly mind-blowing.

8:27 PM
ReserveGrowthRulz said...

A list of terrorist targets it was, no one disagrees with that. And I didn't say I would dismiss it, only judge it based on who wrote it, their veracity, and the specificity of its claim. And there are some who gave it a proper investigative journalists work over, which proves my point as to Upton Sinclair and why in the world Mike ever fell for it.

http://web.archive.org/web/20060627073905/http://www3.sympatico.ca/ron666/ruppert.html

Discussing Crossing the Rubicon is entirely another animal. It seems unlikely, without having to read it to figure this out, that Mike would not have risked that tomes credibility by building his claim entirely upon a known criminal. I have no opinion of the book itself.

6:32 PM
Jenna Orkin said...

Vreeland certainly lives up to mike's description of him as a wriggling can of worms. as for the article you refer to: it provides a multitude of quotes with no clue as to their source so that they may be verified. not that I would spend much time on this. it's a signal of the efficacy of 'crossing the rubicon' that so much attention is focused on its admittedly most dubious character.

8:08 PM

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